Doctrine

Nov 01, 2005 10:56

I've been going through Wikipedia, scanning the stuff about the Mormon church, partly from boredom, and partly because El Reg has been lately bitching about Wikipedia being worthless ( Read more... )

wikipedia, religion, introspection

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ruthanolis November 2 2005, 00:45:48 UTC
It was 1977 when blacks were allowed to receive the Priesthood. Spencer W. Kimball made the decision after much thought and prayer from what I remember reading of Ensigns and other things. And it mostly came about because he was wondering why we had some many faithful men who couldn't hold the Priesthood. Up till then I don't think it was something that was thought about [much?] &mdash even by the darker skinned members ( ... )

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emvesuvius November 2 2005, 01:01:48 UTC
I always find it fascinating that people are willing to rationalize their beliefs to the point of ignoring incontrovertible evidence that the very origins of their belief system were nothing more than fakery and a hoax. It ofen doesn't even seem to matter what their beliefs are; they will find a way to condone it to themselves, even to the point of gross overkill, such as legislating belief, starting wars and killing people in the name of it. This tendency, of course, does not make them necessarily right, but it definitely makes them wrong much louder, which in many people's minds is apparently the same things as being right in the first place.

Love your philosophy posts, old chum... :)

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kisc November 2 2005, 18:23:47 UTC
I'm not certain what exactly you're saying. Are you saying that I amuse you because I still believe even though there are some pretty strong reasons to question things?

I believe, but there are some things that I find confounding.

Yet, perhaps there is a reason for the thing that I find confounding, only I don't know what that reason is yet.

There is something that is called Dark Energy, only I don't have a clue what it is... but there is something going on there for sure, something that we'll call, for the moment, Dark Energy. We just have to work on it until we figure it out. (by we, of course, I do not mean you and me, I mean all those physicists and whatnot.)

Also, "incontrovertible" - You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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kisc November 2 2005, 18:26:36 UTC
Not that I disagree with your point generally ... My father in law is one of those people, in some ways. If you get into a discussion with him re: religion (probably other stuff too), his way of countering your point is to restate his - louder.

I'm just saying that I am, of course, right, only I don't have all the answers yet. And if you're talking about ME ignoring incontrovertible evidence, you are of course silly.

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emvesuvius November 3 2005, 04:12:12 UTC

ishokunaeppy November 3 2005, 05:14:52 UTC
Actually, if you consider the scientific evidence that we all originated in Africa, it's probably more likely that light skin is "the curse of Ham or the curse and mark of Cain."

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belated reply kisc December 15 2005, 16:25:03 UTC
Oh come now, you know me well enough to know that I am interested in science only where it doesn't directly contratict my religious beliefs.

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