Season 3 of Maverick
I wasn't planning on buying this because it was quite a bit more expensive than the previous 2 seasons but the more I watched I realized this season has quite a few episodes I really loved. Although I don't think it is quite as strong as season 2 and has a few more duds, it does have quite a few classic episodes. Of course it is the last full
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A Fellow's Brother is fun and works for Maverick. It kind of goes against the typical Western themes of bravery and vengeance for killing brothers. In the episode Bret is mistakenly accused of a crime so he makes them think it was really Bart so he can find the real criminal. Anyways in the episode it is announced that Bart is killed and Bret doesn't even react, but of course he knows it is not Bart because he knows Bart isn't in the town where the killing took place. So it's not like he doesn't really care that his brother is killed as the episode leads you to believe.
But what I mean when I say Bret can be mean at times to Bart to is at the end of the episode the Bounty Hunter who was after Bret missed the memo that neither of the Maverick Brothers were the culprits and he arrests Bart and Bret just walks away as his brother is getting arrested. But its funny and works in the spirit of the episode and of course Bart will get out, he is just completely dumb founded over what is going on at the end.
But yes Maverick and Juliet is a very cute episode and shows a lovely contrast in Bret and Bart's relationship in what they say vs what they actually do. I also think you would enjoy Maverick Springs, unless you don't like the con episodes.
Encore Westerns will be airing S4 soon so I should be able to see more of the Beau episodes.
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Well, that's good that he knew Bart wasn't even in the town. The ending does sound pretty jerky, though, unless he was only walking away to tease Bart and would have come back after the episode's end.
Awesome. I have no problem with them conning criminals; I only don't care much for them conning each other.
Sweet. I wish Cozi would go back to airing the show more often. It will take them forever to get anywhere with only two airings a week.
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Where are they at Cozi? Of course there is a flip side to watching them so fast then you have nothing left to look forward to and unfortunately the fandom isn't the most engaging. I want to stay in this fandom for some time but it's hard when there isn't much activity.
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They started over, so they're probably still in season 1. I have 1 and 2 on DVD, so I don't need to watch right now.
That's unfortunately true about the fandom. Definitely a quiet place. It's picking up a little bit lately; more people are writing for it than there were several months ago, but still small. There's a Yahoo Group that's kind of active sometimes. I kind of got exasperated with them, however, because somehow me expressing Beau love translated to them into a good time to discuss Bart. I had to wonder if they'd even forgotten Beau exists and thought I meant Bart. I'd be fine discussing Bart with them if I'd actually mentioned him, but I'd wanted to talk about Beau.
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Sorry they ignored you about Beau :(
I like Beau, but I don't think I've seen enough of him to really grasp his character, so far I've watched his 3 episodes with Bart. When they come on Encore I plan to watch more. I've liked Roger Moore before Maverick though.
But I might have to find that Yahoo group. It is a bit gratifying to me that Bart has fans. I know they exist because I've seen comments on IMDB but in many ways Jack Kelly's contribution to the show is ignored or downgraded and I feel that is very unfair. He was on the show all 5 seasons, granted the last 2 seasons were not that great but that has more to do with the scripts than anything he did (although I don't think he made the right choice to stay on the show but hindsight is 20/20).
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Thanks. It was frustrating.
Beau is a mysterious one. We definitely don't learn as much about him as we do the other two. I've had fun fleshing him out in fics.
Bart has quite a few fans, yes. :) They're really coming out of the woodwork on FF.net too. Indeed, Jack Kelly made a large contribution to the show. Perhaps some people downgrade what he did because of his character not being quite as defined in personality as the other two? Not his fault there, either, but maybe some people find it easier to ignore him because of that.
Yeah, the scripts were definitely the problem in later seasons. Roger said he would have stayed on had the scripts been of the same quality as the first two seasons'.
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I've noticed that too but most of the stories don't appeal to me personally. They are good stories just not my impression of Bart. There was one I started to read about Bart drinking as a teen that I enjoyed but the author stopped updating. And what I really want is more Bret/Bart stories (I still need to read your stories yet so I am not referring to yours.)
Indeed, Jack Kelly made a large contribution to the show. Perhaps some people downgrade what he did because of his character not being quite as defined in personality as the other two? Not his fault there, either, but maybe some people find it easier to ignore him because of that.
Well I don't think I agree with that about Bart's personality. I do find his personality very well defined but then I've seen the most of his episodes.
From what I've seen a lot of people who disregard Jack Kelly think Garner was all there was to the show and in their own words they "skip the Bart episodes" which in my opinion means they can't really judge them. I have also noticed people say that as they rewatch as an adult they have come to appreciate Jack Kelly.
I don't really care that people like Garner best. Garner IS great and of course there is no argument who had the stronger career. But when I see people say why did they need Kelly they should have just had Garner or Kelly couldn't handle the show on his own that makes me upset, bc both are untrue.
The show DID need Kelly because of production issues. Kelly was around since the 7th episode, Garner didn't carry the show on his own very long at all. And whereas the show did fail without Garner that is in large part because of the lackluster scripts and because whether you lose Garner or Kelly you are losing 1/2 of what made the show great. The brother angle and the contrast/chemistry/sibling rivalry between Kelly and Garner was what made the show popular (in fact the show played that angle up from the beginning). Sorry to rant. :)
Beau is a mysterious one. We definitely don't learn as much about him as we do the other two. I've had fun fleshing him out in fics.
Well I suppose he was only around for one season so there is a lot of room to play with his character.
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Hmm, you make a good point. I wasn't always impressed by what I did see, so I haven't really had a lot of motivation to watch more of the solo Bart episodes. But then I did find some I loved sometimes, like The Goose-Drownder, so I really should try some more. One can really only fairly judge after watching them all.
Jack definitely could handle the show, but I question whether it would have faltered as badly if he had been the one to leave instead of James Garner. Even with lackluster scripts, I kind of wonder if the later seasons would be more appreciated today if James had stayed. The brother episodes are a lot of fun, but I think overall they had more solo episodes for both of them than combined episodes, so I don't know that I think the show's popularity came mainly from the sibling angle.
Definitely true. Even within what we've got, though, he's kind of a mystery.
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I actually always enjoy Kelly's performance and Bart even if the script is lackluster. It's the same with Garner. Garner had some bad scripts too in my opinion but he had less because he left before the show really went down hill. I don't think the show woukd have survived with Garner.
Garner had a lot of successes in his career but he also had failures. It doesn't matter how good an actor you are if the script and direction isn't good. That being said I enjoy more of Garner post Maverick performances than Kelly's. I love Kelly as Bart but nothing else he did stands out to me (and Ive watched a few things). But I enjoy a lot of Garner's other roles.
As for the brother angle being popular well most people will say the episodes with both Bret and Bart are the best no matter who you prefer. And the series apparently played up the rivalry between Bret and Bart in promotional material. I think a lot of Garner being more recognized with the show came about not just because he was first but because he ended up as a big star and this was his first big role. But anyways it's not so much that Garner doesn't deserve that recognition he does, but I think Kelly does too when it comes to the show.
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Yeah, when you really like an actor/character, it's easy to enjoy what they're in even if the scripts are bad. :) That's how I feel about Beau, pretty much. And true, James also ended up with some duds, both in the show and after it. It's sad that Jack Kelly really didn't have other stand-outs roles after Maverick ended. James had a lot of movies and The Rockford Files, the latter of which I'm very fond of for all the many darlings who guest-starred. I own almost the entire series because there were so many of them coming in.
That's interesting that the brother episodes and the rivalry were a main center of publicity. True, I have seen a lot of people saying how they prefer the brother episodes best. And you're probably right about the show being seen as James' first big role. I wonder why The Alaskans can't show up again, since that was one of Roger's first things. I really want to see an episode that Simon Oakland guest-stars in. And I definitely agree that Jack should be better recognized for the show.
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I've been watching Rockford Files too. Writing wise it is not on the same level for me as Maverick but Garner is great in it. I watched an ep with Lauren Bacall which was very enjoyable and now I am recording an episode with Joseph Cotten.
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Yeah, I think Maverick had better writing, really. I don't always like how The Rockford Files makes fun of things or has Rockford have unbelievably bad luck, especially in the later seasons. They started getting pretty lazy with the plots later, too, just randomly picking someone to be the bad guy even when it doesn't at all fit their behavior. Favorite Rockford episodes for me are Sticks and Stones in season 3 (plot is silly, but it's the only time they really wrote Vern St. Cloud as a character with decent qualities as well as his worse ones), The Queen of Peru in season 4 (my beloved Chrissy.... Character is nasty, but he and his partner in crime had such good chemistry together. I love when you can tell that the actors really clicked), To Protect and Serve in season 3, and I kind of like the sequel from season 5, The Man Who Saw the Alligators. I also like the first episode of season 5.... Can't recall the name, but it had great family squee with Rockford and his dad. The family relationship is one of the best things about The Rockford Files, I think.
I liked the Lauren Bacall one, until we got to the ending. Then I found how they wrapped it up a bit unsatisfactory, as far as motives went.... It seemed the villan's was a bit thin. I'll look up the Joseph Cotten one. :)
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I'll let you know what I think about the Joseph Cotten one and will look into those others you mentioned.
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