There are some difficult emotional things going on in my life right now. I'll still be around and talking about fandom, because fandom is a happiness and a comfort for me. But I may be a bit flaky for a while. Your patience is appreciated if I, for example, fail to answer your comment promptly (or at all). I don't plan on that, because I want to
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I will gladly witter about this fandom for quite a while, given any excuse (thank you for an excuse!) and if it contributes to a happy space I'm pleased, and don't worry about the replying thing ♥
SO YES MOON BOOKS \o/
this is the only time, at least in the stories I've read so far, when we see Tintin and Haddock genuinely angry at each otherAbsolutely. In my head canon, this follows on from the idea that Haddock has taken the whisky aboard as a (bad idea) means of coping with how he's starting to feel about Tintin - he's got so close to him on the base, now they're off on a massively dangerous trip in a space with zero privacy and he hasn't voiced his feelings. I think maybe at this point, he's not sure he's worthy of Tintin or something - I think maybe after Tintin's insane rescue mission and rant, he can see that for whatever reason, Tintin loves him, warts and all - as indeed you've said. In a similar way, I think Tintin cracks because Haddock has come so close to leaving him forever, and he's realised that that would be ( ... )
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Yeah. I think Haddock would probably have taken the whisky aboard anyway, but the difficult emotional situation he's in with Tintin (according to my head canon, which is not unrelated to yours) provides an extra level of self-justification. He's unhappy, frustrated, probably a bit ashamed of himself for being in love with a deeply innocent teenage boy, and at the same time worried that his love isn't and never will be returned in the same way. It could drive a sterner man than Haddock to drink!
Tintin cracks because Haddock has come so close to leaving him foreverAnd that, in my head, is Tintin's first hint that his feelings for Haddock are more complicated and intense than any friendship he's had before. The hint becomes an anvil later when Haddock almost dies ( ... )
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my head canon is that Tintin is oblivious to sexual undertones when Haddock first meets him*nods* My own developing head-canon is that Tintin didn't quite connect his own sexual urges with other people or ( ... )
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Yes, Haddock does occasionally refer to them as "the Siamese twins," but I think that's a joke rather than a reason to believe they're actually twins.
I could have sworn it's mentioned somewhere that they're twins, but I might just be misremembering, after all. Maybe I just assumed it since they seem to have known each other all their lives -- for instance, there's this line in Tintin et les Picaros where Dupond claims that "[n]ous portons la moustache depuis notre plus tendre enfance"(!). I guess it's all open to interpretation...
it may be that this is the first time Haddock realizes that Tintin really will risk anything for him.
Yes! I think you've nailed it. I also think this realisation is a bit unsettling to the Captain -- like, he might feel he doesn't deserve Tintin's love and friendship -- so he tries to compensate by becoming even more protective and devoted, like you said.
I might check out Toison d'Or -- I'm ( ... )
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so he tries to compensate by becoming even more protective and devoted
It's around this point that the captain's "I'm not going, absolutely not, no way no how, count me out, okay I'm going" routine starts to be explicitly about Tintin without other justifications. I love the moment in Tintin in Tibet when Haddock describes himself as following Tintin like an old boat on a towline.
Toison d'Or has its flaws--I think Georges Wilson's performance as Haddock is overly cartoonish--but it's also got great charm. And subtext. And hugs. And athletic!Tintin clad only in little swim trunks, if that's your kind of thing.
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Tintin looks like he's twelve in the thing
OK, they used to have boy (and girl) reporters back then but they'd have to be past minimum high school leaving age surely or it just wouldn't be believable. I always saw him as about 17 or 18. How does he sound? Maybe they're just trying to make him more like the drawings?
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And guess what! I HAVE TWO TINTIN FILMS! Greg reminded me he'd bought them for me a while back but I thought I only had the boxed cartoon set.
I have Tintin and the Mystery of the Golden Fleece (the one on YouTube) and Tintin and the Blue Orange. [bounce] They were hidden behind some of Greg's techo junk but he knew they were there so I'm going to watch them this week. :-D
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Anyway, the real reason I'm commenting is this:
"I recently saw a little clip of the new Tintin movie and freaked out a bit, because Tintin looks like he's twelve in the thing. He's not that young in the comics, but it's going to ruin any chance of my seeing/enjoying Tintin/Haddock slash in the movie."Do you still feel this way? Because if you do, I want to try and convince you that the movie does Herge's work and the characters of Tintin and Haddock justice - and it is very slashable ( ... )
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I'm really glad to hear that Haddock wasn't sanitized. It probably helps that apart from Spielberg, there's not a huge amount of American involvement in the film--the US is quite puritanical about drinking, especially in anything supposedly "for children." But I love him for his flaws and rough edges, and I agree that in The Crab With the Golden Claws we see him at his roughest--he's very nearly a broken man when Tintin pops in through his window.
I wish it was December already. There's a whole list of films I'm looking forward to and none of them open until then.
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I remember reading somewhere a comment where you said that Tintin looked like a twelve year old in the Spielberg movie so you wouldn´t be able to experiment slash feelings...well he looks quite young in some scenes but older in others.
Here for example (at least for me):
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3791/29467524026543269195210.jpg :P
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The new film has some amazing people attached to it (such as Moffat), and that plus that good reviews from Europe are giving me hope. I'm not a huge Spielberg fan--his sentimentality grates on me--but it sounds like his influence was muted by the other talents.
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Mind you, after seeing him in those (incredibly) short (blue!) shorts, I can understand that he was quite fit. (One does have to wonder WHY he got those particular shorts, and IF he got them for a particular purpose...)
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In that film, given the way Tintin was played, I can believe he acquired those shorts just to provoke the captain . . .
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