i am doomed.

Oct 18, 2008 21:19

I made the mistake of reading one too many Doctor/Rose/Jack fics tonight, and decided I needed a proper Jack Harkness fix. I'm about ten or so episodes away from his return to Who, so instead of doing the logical thing and rewatching "Parting of the Ways" or somesuch, I conceded defeat and downloaded the Torchwood pilot ( Read more... )

fandom: doctor who, fandom: torchwood

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kaydeefalls October 19 2008, 01:53:03 UTC
Well, I like Jack better. Also Ianto, although I suspect that's just because he keeps popping up in Who/Torchwood crossover fics, and also because he's everyone's favorite and that sorta seeps into you by osmosis. I certainly wouldn't watch the show just for Gwen. I dunno, I've seen a lot of Gwen-hate around the fandom -- maybe that makes me twice as determined to give her a chance.

I'm pretty sure we disagree about Rose, too, for that matter. :) It's all good.

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kaydeefalls October 19 2008, 18:32:51 UTC
Fair enough. I do suspect I'll be a Jack/Ianto shipper. Since I sort of am already.

And I don't actually think the show itself is stupid -- it's not Who, but it's not bad at all. It's just that the writers seem to think that the only way to create plot is by having the characters do appallingly dumb things...

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such_heights October 19 2008, 09:33:28 UTC
I hear the show starts getting better later on in the first season, and then improves dramatically in the second. Which is good, because I'm already doomed to watch the whole damn thing just because of my stupid, stupid love for Jack, so it's some comfort to know I won't be shouting WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB at the screen all the time.

Hahahahaha, YES, THIS. My absurd love for Jack carried me all the way through the first season, along with Tosh and Ianto being awesome, and then in the second season I no longer wanted to punch Owen in the face and Gwen reached new heights of utter win. Good times.

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kaydeefalls October 19 2008, 18:27:38 UTC
Yeah. It's not that it's a bad show, because it's definitely not. It's just that the characters all do really dumb things a lot, which is a bit boggling given how smart they're supposed to be. Stupid writers.

I totally want to punch Owen in the face. And I'm preemptively trying not to fall TOO hard for Tosh, given that I've been utterly spoiled for the end of S2 already.

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sheldrake October 19 2008, 10:08:53 UTC
Haha, they are the stupidest team that ever lived, it's true! But they have their moments. And even in the absolute depths of lameness, they are often unintentionally hilarious.

I've always liked Gwen, although she often makes me want to punch the writer.

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kaydeefalls October 19 2008, 18:28:52 UTC
It really is a pity that you have these writers capable of snappy dialogue and decent characterization, yet who can only figure out how to create drama by making their characters do appallingly dumb things. Oy.

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secondsilk October 19 2008, 14:27:53 UTC
Yep.

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secondsilk October 19 2008, 14:38:36 UTC
Actually, also:lefaym has a Torchwood timeline here, and another one linked from that.

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kaydeefalls October 19 2008, 18:29:50 UTC
Ooh, nifty!

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