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May 20, 2009 22:52


A (Possible) Background of Isabella Thornton & Guy of Gisborne  - And What Happens Next...?

PLEASE  DISCUSS!  - No Spoilers - Only Speculation - RH S3

For several weeks now, the possible background of the Gisborne kids, especially Isabella’s, has been bouncing around in my mind - brain cells pinging about like a bad Pachinko game.  (No, not fun. And ( Read more... )

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rochvelleth May 21 2009, 11:02:45 UTC
Wow, this is so well put together! Very impressive, and indeed persuasive.

I've had quite different ideas about their backstory myself (I think about these things a lot!), so I'll give you my abridged version.

I reckon the age gap to be a bit bigger than 4 years -you'll see why in a minute - so I'm going to estimate it as 6 years. I also reckon the Gisbornes may have been relatively well to do, but later fell on hard times. I'll tell the rest as a narrative, but please note that it's entirely speculative! :)

The Gisbornes were granted their title in the Norman Conquest, and were a Norman family who came to live in England when William I took the throne. They were given lands and some kind of hereditary title (hmm, can a knighthood be hereditary?). The family managed to ride out the Civil War between Stephen and Matilda, but got caught up in the rebeliion of Henry II's sons (information hereNow, when Guy and Isabella are young, they don't have much to do with each other - he's playing around being boisterous, but she's much younger ( ... )

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karen747 May 22 2009, 04:41:32 UTC
Wow, this is so well put together! Very impressive, and indeed persuasive ( ... )

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rochvelleth May 23 2009, 15:41:01 UTC
Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you! Thank you for all those comments, I love discussing this :)

Wait. Huh? I seem to be remembering Richard Armitage saying in an interview somewhere, at sometime, that the Gisbornes LOST everything in the Norman Conquest. Do I have this wrong? Or are you disregarding this statement in favor of your own narrative? Perfectly acceptable to do so, but thought I'd better ask, right of the bat as that does alter the land possession aspect, etc. Oh dear - no, I'd never heard that before! I'm pretty sure I've never even heard it (rather than just forgetting it), because I've been mulling over my ideas about Guy's past since the first season, so I probably would have incorporated information like that if I'd known about it... Thank you for telling me! Do you know if he said it recently or not? I'm asking because I heard him say in a season 3 interview (GMTV, I think) that he and Robin knew each other as children - now, I assume that comes into play in the flashback episode, but I'd never picked up ( ... )

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karen747 May 24 2009, 23:33:20 UTC
I'll have to change my back story quite a bit to accommodate that now! Though a little tweak here and there could result in something compatible, I guess!

Wait! Don't do that until you confirm this info, for heaven's sake! He said it in an interview some time ago, and he could have been referring to the Gisbornes historically, I mean a few generations back. Please check prior to editing. I don't want to wracked with inadverntent-misdirecting-writer-guilt!! ;-)

But maybe I'll wait until the season finishes before I write anything...
I don't want to spoil you, but this may be VERY wise for background clarification purposes, if nothing else.

Thank you, that's so kind of you! And it's been brilliant talking to you about it, you have such great ideas. I especially liked everything you said about Isabella too, I thinkt hat all sounds spot on! Thanks! I'm glad my ideas may have helped. And Issy is a bit of a complex puzzle to unravel, so it was fun to play "what it?" with her. We shall see.

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rochvelleth May 25 2009, 12:34:13 UTC
Wait! Don't do that until you confirm this info, for heaven's sake! He said it in an interview some time ago, and he could have been referring to the Gisbornes historically, I mean a few generations back. Please check prior to editing. I don't want to wracked with inadverntent-misdirecting-writer-guilt!! ;-)

Don't worry, if I change y mind about everything it's not your fault :) I'll do plenty of digging before I come up with anything written anyway. Most of my ideas just float around in my head, so refining them isn't too hard :)

I can't wait to see what happens. It's nice not being spoilered, but I'm gagging for the information. Still, I'll enjoy it more not knowing!

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karen747 May 26 2009, 00:49:51 UTC
***Don't worry, if I change y mind about everything it's not your fault :)***

Well, that's a relief! I was worried for you...;-) We've got four more weeks, so we'll see.

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