fuck fucking drama
Corey Elizabeth Hook Does anybody actually know anything about astrology? Hahahaha people are dumb!
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Julia Dunn Well why don't you enlighten us then? : p
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Corey Elizabeth Hook Oh julia...hahaha. This has been the same debate going on for centuries between the sidereal and tropical zodiac. Everyone has always had two "signs." Unfortunately this is not new news.
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Emilie Lowe http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/13/no-your-zodiac-sign-hasnt-changed/?iref=NS1
Here's an article to enlighten ;)
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Julia Dunn Haha yeah I did a little research yesterday since a majority of the articles on it were frustratingly vague (apparently because they took this astronomers words and twisted them, or misunderstood them). I was just being sarcastic since you called us all dumb.
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Corey Elizabeth Hook Sorry you took offense to a fb post. Is there anything else you'd like to be passive aggressive about?
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My message to Corey:
Julia Dunn 14 January at 12:37
I didn't mean to come off as passive aggressive in my first comment. I apologize if that's how it made you feel. My second comment was just meant to be an explanation, since you took my request for enlightenment literally instead of taking it for sarcasm, which is how I meant it. Yes, I was offended by your original post. It's not unusual for most people to know next to nothing about astrology- it's not something you learn in school, it's not a mainstream belief, and the extent to which most people have any experience with is it being told about it as an adolescent and figuring out what their sign is based on their birthday. Beyond that, no, most people do not know anything about astrology. Your post made it seem like that was unusual, and literally called those of us who know nothing about astrology (that's pretty much everyone) dumb. Believing in astrology- THAT is dumb, and not at all common. So calling people dumb for believing in it would not be that big of a deal. But not knowing anything about astrology- that's perfectly normal, so calling people dumb for that is bound to offend people. There was no indication you were joking in the original post. The "hahaha" made it feel even more like you were making fun of people. Then when you actually did explain the issue, that confirmed that you were not joking in your original post, and really did expect people to know this stuff. That's a tall order. Then calling people dumb because of it- that's just plain offensive. Even though it was offensive, it's not like I was pissed off or anything. Annoyed, sure, because someone called me dumb. But I wasn't about to rip you over it, and I'm not the passive aggressive type, so I went with sarcasm. I hoped to point out that it was rude to call so many people dumb, and that you hadn't offered knowledge on the subject yourself, and usually when one tells someone else they're stupid, one offers a reason why one feels that way. You hadn't, so my first comment was a jibe, as if to say, "Well, if you're such an expert on this obscure and ancient form of fortune telling, tell us where we all went wrong." In other words, put your money where your mouth is. Back yo shit up. Etc. Sure, that was rude, but not any more rude than calling everyone who doesn't "know anything" about astrology dumb, and not passive aggressive. I hoped the emoticon I included would communicate the right amount of jest, but apparently it did not. I apologize for that, and for your subsequent offense at my apparent passive aggression.
Anyway, after my first comment, you replied, making it clear that you took my request literally and missed my (albeit sarcastic) point. I was also a little offended again over "Oh julia....hahaha." I feel like I know you pretty well, and know the inflection and facial expression you would have if you had said that in real life- I've seen it before in various forms, such as "Oh, Butters," or "Oh, Ford." It's usually accompanied with an eye roll and condescension. So at this point, you have called me (and millions of others) dumb, and then continue the offensive feelings rather than retracting them or apologizing. But at that point I still figured you missed my sarcasm, and therefore wouldn't know that you had offended anyone, so I didn't hold it against you, and instead let you know, in as light-hearted a way I know how to type, that I had researched it myself to figure out the issue. Then I offered an explanation of my first comment, since it was obvious you missed the sarcasm and instead took it literally. That explanation was, simply, "I was just being sarcastic since you called us all dumb." There's nothing sarcastic or passive aggressive about that- just a simple explanation. I thought that would be the end of it, and at that point I wasn't upset and was just going to let it go, since I felt like, after all that, if you still didn't know that you had offended me, then you must not have meant to. Therefore, it wasn't a big deal. I wouldn't have commented at all except that I hate misunderstandings, and really wanted to make sure you knew, directly from me, exactly what I meant. I really don't understand why your next reply was so rude. "Sorry you took offense to a fb post" is obviously sarcastic, so I don't know why you would write ANOTHER offensive thing, when I had only been trying to point out with my previous two comments that you were being offensive. Then, "Is there anything else you'd like to be passive aggressive about?" Another rude comment- you calling me passive aggressive for using sarcasm to point out that you offended me.
So that's the long explanation. The short one is, I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to write anything worse than what you already had. You were offensive, so I used sarcasm. You took me literally, so I explained the literal intent of my previous comment. I didn't expect you to be even MORE rude after that. If I had known that would happen, that you would, deliberately or not, mistake my sarcasm for passive aggression, I never would have said it. But I said it originally because, yeah, you offended me, by calling me and most of the rest of the people on the planet dumb. I didn't want or mean for (or foresee) this to turn into a fight on a Facebook post. I don't think I'm to blame, but if you blame me, then I'm sorry. If I offended you worse than you offended me, I'm sorry. I value our friendship, so I'm hurt that you were so rude to me in a public forum, and I'm pretty upset about it. I don't know what I did to deserve that- it feels like it came out of nowhere. Do you really treat your friends like that? And also because I value our friendship, I'm really, sincerely sorry if I hurt your feelings or came across as passive aggressive. I still don't know why you took it that way, but I'm sorry that it happened.
This might all seem like a huge over-analyzation of the whole thing, but too much had happened to pretend like it never happened, and I was too hurt and surprised not to explain myself. It really didn't have to be a big deal, and maybe after your last comment you still didn't think it was, but it really hurt and shocked me, so it's a big deal to me.
I welcome anything you want to say about this. I hope we can work this out, and that you don't feel like I'm blowing this out of proportion.
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Corey's message to me:
Corey Elizabeth Hook 14 January at 12:58 Report
Julia,
Let me start of by saying your message was too long for me to read. Secondly, I love astrology and I learned about it in college and I have one badass Cancer tattoo that I am totally proud of. Now, the main issue. You have been completely passive aggressive to me almost out entire friendship. And sarcasm and lengthy excuses are a passive aggressive persons best friend. Im sorry that you feel the way you do to treat me in such a way. Im honestly not sure what I ever did to make you act like this. You alway have some "helpful" comment or suggestion that in turn isn't helpful. You ruined my wedding and disrespected me the entire time. You talk shit about my husband and my family. You caused a huge scene the night before my wedding by arguing with jordan (yes i know the real story) and guilt tripping me the next morning when i woke up. You hated my dresses, ruined the boot idea for everyone, talk shit about my wedding- the dj, the officiant, etc. AND THEN to top it all off you steal practically every vendor i used. You are an angry person and now you are trying to punish me with your dress. Telling me to get it altered down almost 6 sizes and before april? Is that why you respected my advice to get your dress altered properly for my wedding? NO. The only reason I have put up with this bullshit is because Im nice and like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But, i am tired of making excuses for why your behavior is so hatefully friendly. I really thought you were a cool chick that was open minded. But, unless people directly agree with you, you write them off. Sorry but all of this shouldn't come to a surprise to you.
Now its up to you where to proceed from here. Im sure you'll find some way to turn this around on me or ruin Jordan and Ford's relationship, but hey thats all you.
And out of the kindness of my heart. I called XOXO today and they only have three dresses left online if you still need to order them and they are practically impossible to find in the state of texas. Also, they don't recommend any alterations on this dress because it will lose its shape. I hope you have a amazing wedding and it works out perfectly for you, because i know what it feels like to have a hater in my bridal party.
Hope I didnt blow this too much out of proportion
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