The Goldstone Report - The Seed of Wars

Oct 23, 2009 06:07

The UN Human Rights Commission has authored a report which could be the seed of wars to come -- and of harsher and more brutal ones, at that.

From Robert M. Goldberg in "The Goldstone Report's Cold Logic," The American Spectator (http://spectator.org ( Read more... )

palestine, israel, human rights, diplomacy, un, war

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jordan179 October 23 2009, 15:19:34 UTC
I am quite familiar with Buchanan's theory. I am not going to watch an hour-and-a-half-long video because you believe that some part of it may be relevant in some manner to the points that I made. Perhaps you should, instead, summarize your response and explain what you are trying to argue? Because, frankly, I can imagine many different points you might be trying to make with that reference, some of them contradicting other ones!

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lather2002 October 25 2009, 02:53:47 UTC
Buchanan as in Pat "Blame the Jews" Buchanan?

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Buchanan's Theory (I) jordan179 October 25 2009, 10:18:24 UTC
Buchanan as in Pat "Blame the Jews" Buchanan?

Yes, which is another reason that I have problems with his theories about World War II.

Put simply, Buchanan believes that the Western Powers, particularly America and Britain, could have stayed out of World War II in Europe by simply not declaring war over Poland. (I am not sufficiently conversant with this theory to know whether he also thinks that France could have avoided war in this manner). He believes that international Jewry essentially manipulated the West into fighting Germany, which otherwise would have been a natural Western ally against the Soviet Union.

What his theory ignores is the actual nature of the Nazi regime, and the likely outcomes of a Nazi-Soviet war absent Western Allied participation in Europe.

The Nazis were insane. Their whole world view was warped by their racialism in general and anti-Semitism in particular, leading them to an irrational belief in the necessity of war and military conquest, especially wars against and the military conquest of "inferior ( ... )

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jordan179 October 25 2009, 10:21:13 UTC
The official legal position of the United Nations, if I recall, is that war is illegal without the permission of the Security Council except in cases where one nation is in immediate peril and has to respond instantly. I don't think a few rockets count. So all of Israel's leadership are already criminals.

Only if you accept the insane premise that countries must accept the launch of "a few rockets" against their people without considering it just cause for war. Are you admitting that this premise is insane and thus the "law" a "joke," or do you really consider Israel's leadership to be "criminals" for responding to military attack with military counterattack?

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