Nah, not the most emotionally moving moment ever...just the most recent one I can remember. Maybe just the most recent one in NuWho (tearful farewells on beaches not my thing, really). It was asking what made you cry the most, to which a really honest answer would be "nothing really"; it's not that there aren't plenty of touching/moving moments in Who, I just don't tend to cry at things apart from morbid cartoons as mentioned above or when I am v v drunk. But that quote just struck a chord with me, really. Yes.
As for Warriors' Gate, well that's a great moment too, in terms of what it means to the Doctor and Romana and in the context of S18's whole arc up to that point (that scene in Romana's bedroom in Full Circle is another big one for me), but the scene itself is quite underplayed, which I think works to its advantage. Can you imagine what RTD would have done with that scene?! O.o
As I say, overall I really liked Vincent and the Doctor, moreso than I thought I was going to. That particular scene with the music and everything...I don't mind being manipulated, but it's when it's so blinking obvious that they're trying to manipulate me that it gets my goat...
Lol, I wouldn't hold it against you if did think it was the most moving ever. IDK, I think one of my problems with TBB was the same as with VatD: the whole schmaltzy ending with bringing Amy's parents back cheapened the whole thing. I mean, I know Moffat hates killing characters off permanently Which makes me fear that River will never really die but... Plus I could relate to the Lonely Orphan thing, but that's just me being entitled. I hate love and happiness, can you tell.;D
Yeah, me too! :D No, not really. Not most of the time, anyway. I sort of know what you mean about the family etc and also Moffat's aversion to character-killing. I think that, all appearances to the contrary notwithstanding, Moffat's a bit of an old softie at heart...which should mean that if ever does take that final sanction against one of his characters (River?? Possibly! :D), it should have all the more impact. Maybe.
I think the thing about that particular moment wasn't that it was sad or heartwarming or anything like that, though; it was more like it seemed to be making some very heartfelt, profound statement about Doctor Who as a television programme and about being a fan of Doctor Who, and that kind of thing is straight up my fanboyish alley, really... :D
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with being an old softie. It's just that I thought that wee Amelia (and adult Amy) might be a good identification figure for kids who had lost a parent or both. They exist, too, and there's no Doctor to bring them back for them, just as there's no Doctor to show people suffering from depression that their work will be acknowledged in the future.
No, that's true - that is very true. I think at least in the case of the Vincent episode that they made it clear that the trip to the future hadn't actually changed what happened to him in the end and that there were no quick fixes the Doctor could provide for him. Still, that whole sequence was jarring to me, even compared to the rest of the episode. And I think you make an excellent point regarding Amy - not only her parents, but all of the very obvious emotional problems that she demonstrated throughout S5, have they all been made right in a wave of the Doctor's magic wand? I really hope not, because not only were they the really interesting thing about her character but, well, there are no magic reset buttons for those kind of problems in real life and it's probably irresponsible for television to suggest there can be.
I am such an easily-manipulated fanboy, though, it's untrue - "something blue!" etc etc *cringes at self* :D
Yeah, somehow I get the feeling I won't be as interested in her anymore now that her life is 'perfect' but that's all about my issues... I mean, the Doctor wasn't able to bring back Susan's parents (one of whom was his own child)nor Susan herself, nor Romana or his entire civilisation. Or Vicki's parents. Or Dodo's. Or Sarah Jane's. He couldn't bring Adric back either. Nor could he fix Ace's problems at home. It's not like children can't handle having an orphan character in their shows or literature.
As for Warriors' Gate, well that's a great moment too, in terms of what it means to the Doctor and Romana and in the context of S18's whole arc up to that point (that scene in Romana's bedroom in Full Circle is another big one for me), but the scene itself is quite underplayed, which I think works to its advantage. Can you imagine what RTD would have done with that scene?! O.o
As I say, overall I really liked Vincent and the Doctor, moreso than I thought I was going to. That particular scene with the music and everything...I don't mind being manipulated, but it's when it's so blinking obvious that they're trying to manipulate me that it gets my goat...
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I think the thing about that particular moment wasn't that it was sad or heartwarming or anything like that, though; it was more like it seemed to be making some very heartfelt, profound statement about Doctor Who as a television programme and about being a fan of Doctor Who, and that kind of thing is straight up my fanboyish alley, really... :D
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Oh, yeah, I agree, definitely.
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I am such an easily-manipulated fanboy, though, it's untrue - "something blue!" etc etc *cringes at self* :D
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I wish I could've enjoyed the episode.
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I do have low standards, though... ;D
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