this movie has gotta end

[jer64bear]

i don't take a lot of pictures. i should, but i usually end up breaking the camera. but i collect things. and i'm realizing the value of that. pictures capture a particular moment- often a forced smile, the same face. a staged event, but not the scene. objects require you to retell the story. relive the moment. it's similar to movies vs books...in

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[anonymous]

I totally disagree with you about your theory of pictures. It is true pictures capture a specific moment in time, yet you go on saying how it is a staged event, a forced smile, same face, etc. I do agree with what you said about books vs movies. I like what you also said about objects. But pictures require you to retell the story as well. It does create the scene. It's true when you read a book you have to imagine everything and make it your own, but pictures actually capture that specific scene. It IS the scene. It doesn't have to imagined, it's fact. I know my argument isn't very strong, and I'm in lazy-mode and would rather not use my brain cells at the moment, but I'll write later if I so desire. I know you're not saying pictures are bad, but appreciate them just the same as an object. I mean if you didn't think the same about pictures you wouldn't have purchased school yearbooks for all these years

[anonymous]

I think he was referring more to the fact that a picture can't be taken without changing the scene; just having the camera present inherently changes the group dynamics.

[anonymous]

Ah, well that is true.

[anonymous]

I agree that's true, but he didn't say that and he wasn't referring to that either or else he would have said that. You make a good point however.

[jer64bear]

just curious...but, who are you guys?

anonymous posting is such a cop-out. I think I might have to disable it.

just go get a journal (they're free)...and then we can be friends and such.

[jer64bear]

Actually, by referencing 'staged events' and 'forced smiles', I was trying to relay that point- that cameras create a separation from the 'reality' of the scene, because of the forced recognition of the memory. For example, I have a bunch of pictures posing with my high school rock band...but the broken guitar pick I saved from one of our shows evokes a much stronger and more specific memory because of its natural contribution to the scene

[moojew]

"I think he was referring more to the fact that a picture can't be taken without changing the scene; just having the camera present inherently changes the group dynamics. "

That was actually me. I forgot that I still had anonymous checked after having made fun of Mutter.

I know, I'm a horrible human being, but meh.

[moojew]

He did, though with the whole 'staged events' and 'forced smiles' thing. I dunno, maybe he didn't actually make it clear, and I just know him well enough to know that's what he was talking about. Who knows.

[byodomer]

Heisenberg

[moojew]

Exactly.