On Jewish exprerience

[jentos]

There's an article going around written by a Jewish woman that is critical of Israel. Here are a couple of responses.  Personal opinions of these people aside, I will share mine.

When I arrived to America, there was a fairly strong effort on behalf of the Jewish community to get me in touch with my "roots".  At one point I was even sent to an

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[sylphida]

Женя, могу я предположить, что ты счастлив со своей женой вовсе не из-за ее национальной принадлежности или непринадлежности к евреям, а из-за ее человеческих качеств, которых ты не встретил в других девушках? Более того, Саша, на мой взгляд, как минимум нейтрально относится к нашей культуре, ты можешь себе представить жену, которая бы презрительно и негативно относилась к традициям твоей семьи и твоих друзей, даже если тебе самому на них в принципе пофиг? А авторша же нашумевшей статьи каким-то образом вышла замуж за человека, явно негативно относящегося (и это мягко сказано) к ее культуре и семье. Т.е я вижу некую параллель, но очень приблизительно

[jentos]

No doubt. I guess I expected something else from the Jewish camp. I don't know. I think the camp was conservative.

Её муж ничего не говорил по поводу еврейства. Я даже могу предположить, что оно ему нравится, так как он ростит своих детей по этим традициям. Он против сионистского движения.

[sylphida]

huh? your post says it was orthodox :) "At one point I was even sent to an orthodox camp described in the first article."

in my experience, those things more often than not go hand in hand. though of course it's possible that this is not the case here.

[jentos]

I guess I don't know for sure. I might have written it incorrectly.

[yougenius]

It was Orthodox. You went to an Orthodox camp and didn't like it because it was too religious and/or because you were a religious teenager.

[yougenius]

*rebelious teenager

[jentos]

I didn't like it because they attempted to brainwash me. I felt my brain was clean enough.

[yougenius]

Brainwashing is relative.

When you teach kids, I'm sure as you know, you have to tell them what's right and wrong. You might say something like: "No, I want my students to think for themselves", but that just proves my point. You're teaching them that critical thinking is right.

You were immersed in a different culture with different values.

[_milashka]

Here, in her own words:
"I change my home page from the New York Times to Haaretz, whose columnists seem to agree more with my Jew-hating fiancé than with my community-leading parents. John and I get married. We are now a united front against the organized Jewish community, and I find myself saying and thinking things that I'm not even sure I believe because I'm not really sure what I believe. "

[sylphida]

Т.е она сама его называет Jew-hating? There you go.

[_milashka]

Yup

On spousal brainwashing...

[doc_a]

It's easier to wash things when they are out... E.g., brains, as John must have really )~~ed hers OUT!
Anyway, converts (not necessarily formal) are the worst antisemites. Usually.

On brains

[sylphida]

I think she didn't have any to begin with.