different cultures have different opinions on some words...since "rudeness" has came up a lot lately, I'll use that for example...
Japan: calling someone you're not related to/have known since childhood/etc. by their first name = omg!rude.
US: Call someone by just their last name/family name, and that person will (usually) automatically go on their guard. To a lot (most) of us, it's rude, and considered borderline hostile.
you have to extra careful online, because it's hard to convey tones through written word/conversations.
I think that's why it's came up so much lately with you...since we've talked a few times, I can read your comments as being more exasperated/annoyed than actual 'rudeness', but it's still a very thin line:\
Regardless of where you are, rude and civil are close to being antonyms. Rude and nice are pretty close to being antonyms. Therefore of someone says in their same line, "rude but nice" or "rude but civil", they are using it wrong.
And no matter where, rape is never a good connotation.
yes, I agree that they're basically the opposite of each other, but it IS possible to APPEAR to be "civil" while your true intentions are completely "rude".
that's what people are (most likely) meaning when they say "rude but nice", lol.
and, no, 'rape' is never a good connotation. I hate the word, but I can't say too much cause I'll use the word "molest", and it's not much better:\
They may not meant it,(I doubt most fangirls want to harm their idols)but it still sounds awful and basically uneducated at the least since "rape" is not a difficult or uncommon word for native English speakers. Its pretty hard to be of age to fangirl (around early teens or so) and NOT know what it means literally. So usually the people that use it have some awareness of what they're saying despite the lack of actual intent to do so.
And really, are fangirls so dumb that we can't think of better things to say or a different way to state them? Why try and sugarcoat something so awful?
"Kill" isn't that difficult or uncommon word either. But I think most people said something along the lines "He pisses me off so much I want to kill him" at one point or another. Yes, it's harsh and might be uncalled for, but don't make words the main part of communication. There is such things as intonations, context, etc. If you choose ignore all that - you'll miss the whole point.
But at the same time, the misuse/overuse of a word has the ability to change the meaning of a word or just simply desensitize a person to its original connotation and meaning. Look at the word "pimp" for example, by definition not a good thing and a crime in many countries, but its taken on a whole new meaning and is a staple of US urban vocabulary
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I don't really mind that fans use that word to express lust for their idol, even if they're fully aware of the meaning of the word. It's obvious that it's not meant literally.
At the very least, think of it this way. If you were approached by some strange guy who totally spazzed at the sight of you and screamed things like "I JUST WANT TO RAPE YOU!" you'd want him put in prison. I don't think anyone says that to their idols when they meet them.
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Japan: calling someone you're not related to/have known since childhood/etc. by their first name = omg!rude.
US: Call someone by just their last name/family name, and that person will (usually) automatically go on their guard. To a lot (most) of us, it's rude, and considered borderline hostile.
you have to extra careful online, because it's hard to convey tones through written word/conversations.
I think that's why it's came up so much lately with you...since we've talked a few times, I can read your comments as being more exasperated/annoyed than actual 'rudeness', but it's still a very thin line:\
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And no matter where, rape is never a good connotation.
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that's what people are (most likely) meaning when they say "rude but nice", lol.
and, no, 'rape' is never a good connotation. I hate the word, but I can't say too much cause I'll use the word "molest", and it's not much better:\
~Angel
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~Angel
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Yes, people who say that do not realise what exactly they're saying, but this also means they don't mean it.
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And really, are fangirls so dumb that we can't think of better things to say or a different way to state them? Why try and sugarcoat something so awful?
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Yes, it's harsh and might be uncalled for, but don't make words the main part of communication. There is such things as intonations, context, etc. If you choose ignore all that - you'll miss the whole point.
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At the very least, think of it this way. If you were approached by some strange guy who totally spazzed at the sight of you and screamed things like "I JUST WANT TO RAPE YOU!" you'd want him put in prison.
I don't think anyone says that to their idols when they meet them.
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