I think sometime around November I began making noises about Sam and Dean only being half brothers, but nobody took the bait so I figured I was off my rocker...but it's always been there nagging at me for many of the very reasons you have named above.
It will be extremely interesting to see how it plays out. I think I'll have to shoot someone if they don't renew it next year.
It does make sense, and I think it really would suck. *sigh* So many ways it could play out, and I'm DYING HERE. *tears at hair some more*
On the heels of the episode that I've come to loathe, known as Home, I got the step-bro or half-bro vibe; but still feel like Sam, being the chosen and preferred one (quite canonically if the on screen behaviors of Misery!psychic, dead!Mary, and SW-past!John are any indication), is the real son of both Mary and John. If they're going the half-bro route, then Sam is Mary's son, and John knows that; but because Sam is all that's left of Mary, it still puts Sam as #1 in John's heart even though Dean may be his natural son.
However, I'd be very surprised if Kripke & Co. went in this direction because 1) it immediately screws with their brotherly premise on which the entire series has been based and advertised; 2) it doesn't make dead!Mary look good; and 3) the writing on this show is simply not that deep or intricate. Veronica Mars this show ain't
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I agree with all three of your objections there. It's not that I don't think surprises are on the way, but whether or not they're really and truly intricate remains to be seen. It's set up to allow that, certainly, but whether or not it will go through with it -- dunno.
I STRONGLY agree about the brotherly thing and the don't-bash-Mary thing. I kinda see the Christ story -- I have to admit -- with Sam as Jesus, Mary as, well, Mary, and John as, well, John, as in the Baptist. Meg so far could fit the whole snake-with-the-apple idea, although "Shadow" turned her into a minion, and the real Satan hasn't yet been revealed. Dean doesn't fit as an apostle, or really much of anything specific to me so far. He is sort of the fly in the biblical-parallel ointment. And I think Dean's ROLE is somehow related to that amulet. But I know that's an old theory, no need to go into it I don't suppose.
Then again, I'm an atheist of long standing, so what do I know? Maybe Dean is actually Biff.
Yeah, the whole messiah angle is the most obvious sledgehammer-over-the-head way for this story to go, and I sincerely hope that isn't what they have in mind at all. *ack*!
But if they do this then, yeah, poor Dean is one of the many Jameses no one but a priest can keep track of, or Biff (*snort*), or worse, Brian! (poor sap)
I could just be totally wrong about the biblical parallels, too. Just as easily. Dean doesn't immediately fit into it, no, which does pose a problem if that's what they're kinda-sorta doing here. *nod*
*snerk* Brian! "I want to have babies." "You can't have babies, you don't have a womb! Where are you going to keep it, in a box?"
Yeah, I think we're all way too invested in them being full brothers and all that implies. It's not that they would not love each other less, but the bond... well, like you said, it would suck.
And it's the easy way out of alot of things for the writers. So far, they don't strike me as being that wimpy, though.
See, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, I can PLAY with the not-brother thing in fiction, because it IS fiction -- it's not going to be canon, ever (certainly not as it would ultimately work out in the rest of that story, I can guarantee), and so I can relax and play, because I'll just put the guys back in the box when I'm done, good as new. Nothing in fanfic is PERMANENT. But canon IS permanent, and that's what's making me so antsy. You know what I mean?
If you are raised as brothers, you can still have an incredibly deep bond even if not "full" brothers. One of my best friends has a half-sister (who is black, and Lisa is white, so anyone walking down the street can see they are not full sisters) and has never once referred to her as her half sister. They're really close. Their mom had primary custody of both of them, so they grew up in the same house
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It will be extremely interesting to see how it plays out. I think I'll have to shoot someone if they don't renew it next year.
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On the heels of the episode that I've come to loathe, known as Home, I got the step-bro or half-bro vibe; but still feel like Sam, being the chosen and preferred one (quite canonically if the on screen behaviors of Misery!psychic, dead!Mary, and SW-past!John are any indication), is the real son of both Mary and John. If they're going the half-bro route, then Sam is Mary's son, and John knows that; but because Sam is all that's left of Mary, it still puts Sam as #1 in John's heart even though Dean may be his natural son.
However, I'd be very surprised if Kripke & Co. went in this direction because 1) it immediately screws with their brotherly premise on which the entire series has been based and advertised; 2) it doesn't make dead!Mary look good; and 3) the writing on this show is simply not that deep or intricate. Veronica Mars this show ain't ( ... )
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I STRONGLY agree about the brotherly thing and the don't-bash-Mary thing. I kinda see the Christ story -- I have to admit -- with Sam as Jesus, Mary as, well, Mary, and John as, well, John, as in the Baptist. Meg so far could fit the whole snake-with-the-apple idea, although "Shadow" turned her into a minion, and the real Satan hasn't yet been revealed. Dean doesn't fit as an apostle, or really much of anything specific to me so far. He is sort of the fly in the biblical-parallel ointment. And I think Dean's ROLE is somehow related to that amulet. But I know that's an old theory, no need to go into it I don't suppose.
Then again, I'm an atheist of long standing, so what do I know? Maybe Dean is actually Biff.
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But if they do this then, yeah, poor Dean is one of the many Jameses no one but a priest can keep track of, or Biff (*snort*), or worse, Brian! (poor sap)
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*snerk* Brian! "I want to have babies." "You can't have babies, you don't have a womb! Where are you going to keep it, in a box?"
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Yeah, I think we're all way too invested in them being full brothers and all that implies. It's not that they would not love each other less, but the bond... well, like you said, it would suck.
And it's the easy way out of alot of things for the writers. So far, they don't strike me as being that wimpy, though.
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