people i hate...

Sep 16, 2004 17:31

i hate "educated" folks who think just cuz they opened a book by choice that they automatically have the right to deem themselves cured of the "ignorant bug". if you're white, don't think just cuz you got a degree that you're better than white folks who don't, and don't think that makes you incapable of being racist. if you're black, don't think ( Read more... )

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iniquitous1 October 26 2004, 08:09:28 UTC
i know guys overall don't exist as a class. my argument was in reference to a specific group of guys.

as for who has more responsibility, without doubt it's in the hands of the females. i just hate it when certain brothas act like they're absent of any guilt whatsoever. everyone is accountable in my opinion.

and i didn't say anything about tv in general exploiting women. i was referring to the music videos. also, i wouldn't have a problem with the t&a in music videos if we saw an equal number of videos where women weren't running around with their titties and asses out. at least balance the image, you know? women are multi-faceted, a fact that unfortunately doesn't get shown as much on music videos.

and this isn't to say that i expect everyone to cover up. again, it's about exploring the different sides of both men and women in the videos. then again, seeing as hip-hop overall is in a rutt, i'd have to bring up my issue against the straight up rote lyrics i'm hearing in hip-hop (and THAT'S ANOTHER STORY...)

finally, where balances of power are healthy...that's the key phrase right there. there is none of that. anywhere in the 1st world countries. it's not so much as asking that a female be liked for her brain, it's demanding it. therefore, it's not a plea by any means.

i'll have to get back to this later...got a job interview in like 45 minutes and i need to prepare for it.

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guttaperk October 27 2004, 05:30:11 UTC
Thanks for your reply. I should note that I wasn't necessarily accusing
you of taking positions contrary to mine, so much as adding my rant to
yours. :-D

Why should we expect the introspective, intellectual, poetic side of
women to be reflected in music videos about sex and violence? You
realise that that's what's popular, right? Is it reasonable or
realistic to expect a sensitive, balanced portrayal of women to be
incorporated into that?

That makes about as much sense to me as expecting balanced portrayal of
the male psyche from the WWF!

I guess this brings us back to the valid point that you alluded to,
regarding our individual/collective responsibility for the trends of
consumer purchasing. We ain't buying the intelligent poetic music in
the same numbers that we're buying the superficial stuff, after all...

...but that also brings us to the issue of freeing the music industry
from the bean
counters
. Artists have divorced themselves from too much of the
business of music for too long, and it's killing the industry.

With respect to gender, the balance of power thatI was referring to
is primarily seated within the individual concerned, in this case the
woman.
Women are past the point where they need men to release power to them.
All they need to do is recognise the power within themselves, and
express it appropriately in their lives. It's not a matter of the
balance of power existing in this society or that one; it's about the
power structure you enter into with the people around you. It's about
the balance of power you negotiate with that hot Mr. Niceness you were
making eyes with in class. It's about the way you evolve in your
relationship with your prof. It's about you, and what you build.

This doesn't mean that we can't identify broad trends within particular
cultures and subcultures. It's just that, as you have noted, that kind
of pontification is too often taken as an excuse for personal inertia-
an inertia that may be understandable, but is never necessary.

Both women and men suffer from gender-power-imbalance problems. The
expected and usual (though not universal or inevitable) response is
that women verbalise/ complain, and men act out via violent or
self-destructive behavior; that women obsess over the minutae of the
problems, while men soak themselves in surly denial and machismo.
Neither socially constructed semiperspective captures the problem,
neither stereotypically expected  response pattern constitutes a
solution.

...how did the interview go?

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all of your points are valid iniquitous1 October 27 2004, 12:19:17 UTC
damn. i can't argue with you...

oh, the interview went aiight. i'm sitting here "obsessing over the minutae of the interview"...no really, i am.

i'll post a synopsis of it shortly, although knowing me, it'll turn into a three paragraph rant of some sort. LOL

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