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[infiniteviking]

Not sure if anyone's ever remarked on this before (I've just been introduced to RD so forgive me if some of you caught these references back when they first appeared!), but this just dawned on me the other week (thank you again, slwatson, commanderteddog, and kalijean), and here it is for posterity: textual proof in Doctor Who that Steven Moffat's favorite Red Dwarf episode is

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[sl_walker]

Heeeeee! Well, and Ace is straight, while Captain Jack is pansexual.

It could well be a homage, though, yes. <3

[infiniteviking]

Yes -- seems in-character for canon!Rimmer, in any incarnation -- but I wonder if he would've been if they'd done the series in this decade. It's the total confidence that he's so awesome that everybody will obviously adore him if he notices them (regardless of whether he feels like adoring them back) that I feel is related. Would have to rewatch "The Empty Child" and "The Doctor Dances" to make sure; Jack may have had less internal arrogance when the Moff introduced him than what RTD later built into his character arc.

(Also, that scene from your icon. *DIES* THEIR EXPRESSIONS... AHAHAHA.)

[sl_walker]

I LOVE that scene.

And that's very true -- they do both have the same attitude, even if not the same fancies. Though, I really hate Ace and am a little more apathetic towards Captain Jack. But yes, I can see what you mean.

[infiniteviking]

Jack does have more depth, even in The Empty Child -- he's a con man and knows a big chunk of his confidence (as Moffat started him out, anyway) is a facade created to manipulate people and defend himself with, and that's a level of self-awareness way beyond Ace's ken. I see from screencaps, though, that Ace returns later on -- has he learnt any lessons from his hopeless universal quest? ;P

[sl_walker]

Well, in VI, it's not Ace but Rimmer himself who runs up against a polymorph. As for Series VII... ick. Huge damn ick. Big, big ick. Stoke Me a Clipper is the episode and it is what killed canon RD for me.

But watch the others before looking into that one, trust me.

[infiniteviking]

Hm! Have we seen a polymorph before? I can't remember whether that emotion-phage monster was one. But yeah, not watching Series VII except maybe to laugh at it. I've had plenty of experience translating bad canon as mere lousy profic.~

(AAAAAAAAAH I see what you did there! Brb uploading lots of icons! *hugs SO MUCH*)

[sl_walker]

*snugs!*

And yeah, you saw Polymorph. "Well, I can't say I'm totally shocked... you'll bonk anything, won't you, Lister?" XD

[infiniteviking]

*epic facepalm* Oh yeah, that one. XD *still trying to unjumble them*

[sl_walker]

The only bad part about watching them all in rapid succession! XD

[infiniteviking]

Truth! ^____^