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Bureaucracy Getting Out of Hand

Oct 12, 2007 10:13

I've been following the Social Security 'no match' story for weeks and knew what was coming, but the other morning I opened the front page of the Chicago Tribune and read a clip from the notoriously liberal Los Angeles Times that filled me with rage: (Click twice for full view)

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kharmii October 23 2007, 23:46:34 UTC

I'm a very political person when I can understand the facts and then draw my conclusion based on examining the Pathos, Ethos, and Logos from the major news channels. But what I don't get is were does Dem. and Rep. stand on this issue. Who is FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM and who is AGAINST IMMIGRATION REFORM?

I'm sure that if we found out who is FOR and who is AGAINST this issue then we (The People of America) could draw up a plan to send to our representatives that shows them a common ground on this issue. If their is anyone who can summ up this issue in a who is FOR and who is AGAINST. That would be ace.

BTW: Yeah I don't like how new papers sway either on one side or the other. And if we were to reflect this issue to Iraq... American's would be swayed by the conflicting and non-conflicting views on both issues. the NYT and LAT are both papers I could careless for because they don't give enough Logos to back their points I think.

kharmii October 23 2007, 23:58:15 UTC

Some guy posted the above comment and then erased it right away, but I still want to answer it the best I can ( ... )

heehee luxcis October 24 2007, 00:28:21 UTC

Hi Sorry, I'm still getting use to LJ :D

Thank you for your answer. Saddly we would still have to address the issue as a WHO IS FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM and WHO IS AGAINST IMMIGRATION REFORM.
As Kharmii said, "I'm not sure that either pary is for immigration reform." And I concurr this point, some Rep. are for the Immigration Reform and some are not. Same can be said for the Dem. But I feel in order to get a full grasp on this issue the people need to push to make the partys draw a line as to who is for the immigration reform and who is against.

In the end I think one of these partys are going to have to pick their stand on this issue. I'm sure it'll just take time...

Cheers,
Sean

Re: heehee kharmii October 24 2007, 01:52:36 UTC

You're right. I believe whichever party works towards immigration reform will win the next election, but we need a clear answer as to which candidate will be tough on the issue.

On a side note: Have you noticed how other countries are having similiar problems to the US? I just read in Reuters a few days back how Switzerland voted in a rightwing leader because he lobbied for the removal of bogus refugees, illegals abusing welfare, illegals committing crimes, etc.

Re: heehee luxcis October 24 2007, 02:10:35 UTC

Interesting... Indeed.

I just went to CNN and looked at what possition all the candidates stand on. And it seems like the majority of our candidates are for Immigration Reform. However, the same can be said about Gay Merrage. lol

Cheers,
Sean.

Re: heehee kharmii October 24 2007, 02:16:02 UTC

Haha!! The majority of candidates are for immigration reform because they're smart enough to know it will get them elected. I don't know what to say about gay marriage however, it's very far down on my list of political priorities to think about.

Re: heehee luxcis October 24 2007, 02:17:57 UTC

If I was to think about what party would accept Gay Merriage... hands down the Dems. because Reps. are so up their asses about being bible buff. But ironicly greedy too.

Cheers,
Sean.

Re: heehee kharmii October 24 2007, 02:21:38 UTC

Do you think the dems would change their stance on gay marriage if they found out the majority of people were against it? I'm not sure if they are or not, but I'm sure that the majority wants immigration reform.

Re: heehee luxcis October 24 2007, 02:28:17 UTC

I LIKE THAT PIC!

Not really, I was being facishious(SP). LOL!

Re: heehee kharmii October 24 2007, 02:39:04 UTC

X-D Most people don't because I usually only use it to be an ass on the internet, but I'm serious in this forum.

Re: heehee luxcis October 24 2007, 02:25:45 UTC

Back to subject: Gee, I would guess the Dems. honistly couldn't give a rats about the Reform but better social security, ya'know? If it's possible.

Secondly, those Mexican assibilage that took place earlyer this year.... Question: Why the hell didn't anyone screen people for Idetification and see who the real immigrants are. In my English Comp Class their is a Mexican American and she was trying to say to me that it's difficult to get a green card and passport and stuff.
Seriously I looked at her and said, Have you tried? And if you have then how long does it take? And secondly if Mexicans are so bent on getting over here why cant they just bone up go through the papers and do what they should do. Instead of comming to America and then being caught and then going back to were they started. It doesn't make sense to me. And I don't understand why people can't just fill out papers and go through the process. To me it just seems like a lot of lazyness.

Cheers,
Sean.

Re: heehee kharmii October 24 2007, 02:36:59 UTC

It's just chaos, I'm afraid. We are too lawyer-driven a society and that is what is hurting our nation. That newspaper article posted above is a good example. Our president tries to do the will of the people, but is sued by the ACLU. I'm going to have to dig up that newspaper article I read in this morning's Tribune. Here it is:

Border Fence Work to Resume

Another case of a federal judge working against the will of the people for some bs reason. These federal judges have too much power and the majority of them are liberal. Another thing that both scares and infuriates me is how illegals have organizations working within our country to sue the cities cracking down on them! How is that even able to happen?

Re: heehee luxcis October 24 2007, 02:40:05 UTC

Simple solution: Bring back the PINKERTONS! ROFLOL!!!!

Re: heehee kharmii October 24 2007, 02:46:32 UTC

Haha!! -As long as they were on the side of the American workers and not the illegal immigrants undercutting wages.

Re: heehee luxcis October 24 2007, 02:56:17 UTC

Oh how history can repeat it's self. Also and this could be taken as a rumor. But I remember hearing on CNN about how most of the Mexican population is in the aria were old Mexican teritory was at one point, before joining the U.S.

Anyway, I don't think the source is based on actual Logos. And it could of been one of those things to start some kind of rumor mill. ya'know?

In any case I thought it was intreging.

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