Why I Disagree With Spock/Uhura

[idvo]

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[1bill_sookie]

Hi. I completly agree, they destroyed Uhura's charcter. She was my favorite TOS woman, but now she's really nothing more then eye candy. I also don't like what they did to McCoy. Now the "traid" isn't going to be K/S/Mc, it'll be K/S/U. I love those points about Uhura and sexuatily you pointed out. Makes me wornder if ANY women were involved in making XI. I'm glad that my post stuck with you and prompted you to write this. :)

[sizequeen]

How does giving Uhura a first name, a romance, and defining what her job actually is beyond relaying messages "ruining" her character?

[1bill_sookie]

I think this artcile speaks for itself, but i'll tell you anyway.

She is nothing remotally like TOS Uhura. Yes, I know it's reboot and she's young and inexperinced and everything, but there's not very much of her older self IN her, if that makes any sense. Also, as others have pointed out, in the show she was a woman who didn't need a romance to diefine her, both as a woman, or realting to her role on the show. In reboot however, her romance with Spock IS what defines her to viewers. She displays very little of her langauge skills, her compatance as a trained Starfleet Officer,and, to furthur top it off, her main role seems to be "the girlfriend". If Uhura wasn't involved with Spock, even if JJ introudced it in a sequal, she would still be seen as more then the romantic girl, she would be more fleashed out as a charcter, so more people would see the woman she was meant to be. But, as it is, she's not.

[sizequeen]

You are right. She is nothing like TOS Uhura. She is what TOS was supposed to be but couldn;t be because of racism and sexism

[1bill_sookie]

Don't tell me that I have no idea why I don't like her, and don't assume that I don't like her simply because she's with Spock. In fact, I never said that I didn't like her, I said I don't like that her most promint role is Spock's girlfriend, and that the film dosn't really give her any role beyond that. Think about it. How often does she have a scene more then 5 seconds long unless she's with Spock? How many times does she display her skill with languges ? How often did she show that she was more then compant to do her job on the bridge? Hardly ever. And as long as you say I have no argument I might as well say that I feel that all of your posts have no argement, they have no vald points, and all your really doing is critizing the author of this post and those who agree with her.

[sizequeen]

Compare Uhura's screen time to McCoy's. Uhura has more. After Kirk and Spock , she has the most screen time, and she is the character who in the end confers acceptance on Kirk. There are three moments where she calls him captain---first with contempt, the second with anger, and the third and final time with respect.

This movie is not about Uhura. It is the origin of Spock and Kirk, but she is the most important character after them.

Your argument is that New Uhura is nothing like TOS Uhura. And you act like that's a bad thing. I recall that Nichelle Nichols spent 3 years and six movies with no first name, no plots, and no characterization. She got to do more in the films, but she was never a three-dimensional character. That fact that Saldana got more to do is *fantastic.*

You are determined to pursue your illogical thinking no matter what evidence is presented. The only thing I have against you and the original poster is your inability to form a coherent, internally consistent argument.

[fee_folay]

"I recall that Nichelle Nichols spent 3 years and six movies with no first name, no plots, and no characterization

[idvo]

I have to thank you, 'cause your post made me sit down and think what exactly it was that bothered me about S/U in the first place ^.^ I really hope the next film features more McCoy.

[1bill_sookie]

Me to. I like him a little more then TOS McCoy because he's more scartastic, brutly honest, and more funny then DeForest.