No; square or rectangular is what came first to my mind. And the second thing that came to my mind (as I was scrolling slowly) was, "Isn't that drawing a Durer?" (Why, yes, 'virginiadear,' it is!0
And the last thing is, "Check Kohler, and see if he can't shed some light on this. I KNOW his best thing was Germanic fashions in the Victorian era---it's when he lived, after all---but the guy was German and despite editors and a lot of bad SCA press, not stupid. And he *did* understand cut.
We will get draping this weekend (basic rectangle first, modified from there) and see what we get. Sadly, I don't own the Kohler - do you? Any chance you could poke around in there on my behalf?
Yes, I do; the Dover edition. I could and will, but I'm not sure precisely how soon I'll get to do that. In other words, it's at home, and I'm not, so I can't say, "Yeah, give me an hour" or promise "Tomorrow before lunch, my local time."
But I ought to be able to poke around *sometime* tomorrow. 'Kay?
The third picture is a totally different shape than the first two. The third looks like a Schaube. The first two look like just wraps of some type. Geometric shapes, like your sketches.
Yes, the shape of the body in the third picture is different, but I don't know if it is really a Schaube either; something about the hang of the front corner over the left arm belies that idea to me.
I have a few other 'hooded' examples, one that makes a lot more sense as a cloak:
Quick and dirty. Not enough light and too many layers of wool, but this should give you an idea of what I was describing (like you really need *my* help) ;-)
I would suggest starting with a model on a dummy, using basic square or rectangle. Hang it and see how it drapes. Then if it doesn't look right, try the gored portions. I keep finding that many of these garments really are just a rectangle, or very close to it.
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And the second thing that came to my mind (as I was scrolling slowly) was, "Isn't that drawing a Durer?" (Why, yes, 'virginiadear,' it is!0
And the last thing is, "Check Kohler, and see if he can't shed some light on this. I KNOW his best thing was Germanic fashions in the Victorian era---it's when he lived, after all---but the guy was German and despite editors and a lot of bad SCA press, not stupid. And he *did* understand cut.
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But I ought to be able to poke around *sometime* tomorrow.
'Kay?
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I have a few other 'hooded' examples, one that makes a lot more sense as a cloak:
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The trim gives the illusion of angles < 90 degrees.
I'm pretty sure we could figure out the lay in about 15 minutes with a couple large safety pins/kilt pins and a wool blanket.
60"x60" fabric
Fold 20"down at the top
Center fabric on back of neck with the 20" on top, facing back
Drape center down arms
Pin at the neck
20" fold might double as a hood
Reminds me a lot of how I used to wear the my great kilt on cold/rainy days.
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I knew it looked familiar!
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