Sep 17, 2006 21:14
so, the more I talk to connie (mason's GF), the more I realize that all the people in the group I used to be in are completely oversensitive. Let me give you an example. This happened last night on AIM, I am putting it here to the best of my memory because I didn't save the convo.
ok, edited because i got the convo
holicaholic69 (1:42:54 AM): am i not allowed to praise my maker?
iidx girl (1:43:04 AM): what is worth praising?
iidx girl (1:43:17 AM): why don't you go use your money on your parents or something
iidx girl (1:43:23 AM): because those are your makers
iidx girl (1:43:28 AM): and you can see immediately results with that
holicaholic69 (1:43:29 AM): money?
holicaholic69 (1:43:35 AM): i have so little money ^_^;;;
iidx girl (1:43:46 AM): with god you kind of have to wait until you're dead
iidx girl (1:43:59 AM): and since he doesn't really exist, that's not very good
iidx girl (1:44:14 AM): if you have so little money, then where does that put me?
iidx girl (1:44:27 AM): on the level of complete poverty?
holicaholic69 (1:44:33 AM): what?
holicaholic69 (1:44:50 AM): why would me saying i dont have much money do that?
iidx girl (1:45:27 AM): you are unbelievably wealthier than i am
holicaholic69 (1:45:34 AM): me?
holicaholic69 (1:45:36 AM): i dont have a job
holicaholic69 (1:45:40 AM): or any money saved up
iidx girl (1:45:40 AM): you know what my parents do?
holicaholic69 (1:45:46 AM): me personally
holicaholic69 (1:45:50 AM): not my parents
iidx girl (1:46:02 AM): you don't live independent fromt hem
holicaholic69 (1:46:17 AM): no, but i dont ride their coattails either
holicaholic69 (1:46:26 AM): i worked this summer for all my money
holicaholic69 (1:46:28 AM): and that is all gone
iidx girl (1:46:37 AM): then how do you afford brand new computers, and video game consoles without a job?
iidx girl (1:46:41 AM): and college without a job?
iidx girl (1:46:53 AM): you worked for your parents?
iidx girl (1:46:59 AM): you told me this
iidx girl (1:47:10 AM): and you said you could arbitarily come in whenever
holicaholic69 (1:47:16 AM): no
holicaholic69 (1:47:20 AM): i dont work there anymore
holicaholic69 (1:47:24 AM): they dont have any work for me
holicaholic69 (1:47:32 AM): and it wasnt ever arbitrarily
iidx girl (1:47:37 AM): then you lied to me
holicaholic69 (1:47:42 AM): no
holicaholic69 (1:47:43 AM): what i said
holicaholic69 (1:47:48 AM): was if i had to study
holicaholic69 (1:47:52 AM): or if i had a golf tournye
holicaholic69 (1:47:58 AM): i could take off of work
iidx girl (1:48:08 AM): study for what?
holicaholic69 (1:48:13 AM): school
iidx girl (1:48:18 AM): what school?
holicaholic69 (1:48:23 AM): as i figured i would still be working there during the school year
iidx girl (1:48:26 AM): you said during the summer
iidx girl (1:48:34 AM): you went to summer schoo;?
holicaholic69 (1:48:44 AM): i did, but it was a PE class
holicaholic69 (1:48:49 AM): golf xD
holicaholic69 (1:49:01 AM): but i figured i would still be there during this semester
iidx girl (1:49:40 AM): so you could take time off whenever you wanted so that you could play golf?
holicaholic69 (1:49:51 AM): no
holicaholic69 (1:49:53 AM): tournaments
iidx girl (1:50:00 AM): which is golf
holicaholic69 (1:50:06 AM): not whenever i wanted though
holicaholic69 (1:50:16 AM): why are you like attacking me?
iidx girl (1:50:19 AM): i'm not
holicaholic69 (1:50:24 AM): yeah, you kinda are
iidx girl (1:50:31 AM): because you keep contradicting yourself
holicaholic69 (1:50:38 AM): how am i contradictory?
iidx girl (1:50:38 AM): you said you got to get off whenever you had a tournament
holicaholic69 (1:50:43 AM): i dont have any money
holicaholic69 (1:50:46 AM): because i dont work
iidx girl (1:50:48 AM): and then now you just said you couldn't take off
holicaholic69 (1:50:50 AM): i DID work
holicaholic69 (1:50:53 AM): so i DID have money
holicaholic69 (1:50:56 AM): but i dont now
holicaholic69 (1:51:00 AM): so how is that contradictory?
iidx girl (1:51:12 AM): how much money did you make?
holicaholic69 (1:51:25 AM): why does that matter?
iidx girl (1:52:37 AM): because you called yourself poor
holicaholic69 (1:52:56 AM): no i didnty
holicaholic69 (1:53:02 AM): i said i dont have much money
holicaholic69 (1:53:07 AM): -I-
holicaholic69 (1:53:11 AM): dont have mouch money
iidx girl (1:53:36 AM): not having much money usually equals poor
iidx girl (1:53:46 AM): what is "not much money" to you then?
holicaholic69 (1:53:47 AM): but that isnt what i said
holicaholic69 (1:53:51 AM): to me?
holicaholic69 (1:54:02 AM): i have 20 bucks to last me till i make some more money
holicaholic69 (1:54:04 AM): for food
holicaholic69 (1:54:04 AM): gas
holicaholic69 (1:54:13 AM): all that good stuff :-P
iidx girl (1:54:38 AM): so your parents charge you to eat food?
holicaholic69 (1:55:23 AM): no, but i dont eat with them generally
iidx girl (1:55:33 AM): why not?
holicaholic69 (1:55:39 AM): i donno, just dont
holicaholic69 (1:55:57 AM): speaking of food
holicaholic69 (1:56:06 AM): i had some really good curry tonight
iidx girl (1:56:15 AM): i don't care
iidx girl (1:56:25 AM): i find your poor comment really insulting
iidx girl (1:56:35 AM): because from what i know, your dad owns his own law firm
iidx girl (1:56:38 AM): not law
iidx girl (1:56:58 AM): architecture
iidx girl (1:57:03 AM): you know what my dad does?
holicaholic69 (1:57:16 AM): well maybe you shouldnt make monetary comments if you are going to be insulted when someone else makes one
holicaholic69 (1:57:24 AM): i wasnt insulting you
iidx girl (1:57:32 AM): when did i make a monetary comment at all?
holicaholic69 (1:57:34 AM): i was saying that i , myself, do not have a lot of money
iidx girl (1:57:47 AM): but that is false
holicaholic69 (1:57:51 AM): iidx girl (1:43:19 AM): why don't you go use your money on your parents or something
iidx girl (1:57:57 AM): you still live with your parents.
holicaholic69 (1:58:01 AM): it is NOT false
holicaholic69 (1:58:24 AM): that comment you made
holicaholic69 (1:58:30 AM): insinuated i had money to spend
holicaholic69 (1:58:32 AM): which i dont
iidx girl (1:58:33 AM): no.
holicaholic69 (1:58:34 AM): and i said i dont
iidx girl (1:58:39 AM): you completely missed the point
holicaholic69 (1:58:42 AM): and apparently you thought i was rude
iidx girl (1:58:44 AM): i said that
iidx girl (1:58:56 AM): while you were talking about praising your maker
iidx girl (1:59:11 AM): since your parents are your makers, i said why don't you do something nice for them
iidx girl (1:59:15 AM): i didn't have to say money
iidx girl (1:59:22 AM): because that wasn't the point at al
iidx girl (1:59:26 AM): it had nothing to do with money
iidx girl (1:59:38 AM): but apparently you thought it did
holicaholic69 (1:59:58 AM): and as we have seen thus far
holicaholic69 (2:00:07 AM): it oonly matters what the other person interprets it to mean
iidx girl (2:00:24 AM): what?
holicaholic69 (2:00:59 AM): you took my comment to be insulting
holicaholic69 (2:01:06 AM): something i never intended it to mean
holicaholic69 (2:01:17 AM): and i took yours to mean something it wasnt
iidx girl (2:01:25 AM): how could it have not been insulting?
holicaholic69 (2:01:31 AM): all i said
iidx girl (2:01:31 AM): you still didn't ask me what my dad does
iidx girl (2:01:41 AM): even though i have asked you several times
holicaholic69 (2:01:43 AM): i read your journal
iidx girl (2:01:55 AM): then why would you say something like that to me?
iidx girl (2:02:02 AM): knowing that your family is so wealthy
holicaholic69 (2:02:05 AM): BECAUSE I DONT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
iidx girl (2:02:09 AM): lack of empathy there
holicaholic69 (2:02:19 AM): YOU NOT WANTING TO ACCPET IT DOES NOT MAKE IT AN DIFFERENT THAT I DONT HAVE ALOT OF MONEY
iidx girl (2:02:32 AM): your family has a lot of money
holicaholic69 (2:02:53 AM): i am more or less not a part of my family anymore
holicaholic69 (2:02:56 AM): i just live here
holicaholic69 (2:03:03 AM): this summer has made that apparent
holicaholic69 (2:03:07 AM): since i was never here
iidx girl (2:03:08 AM): honor thy parents?
iidx girl (2:03:29 AM): oops?
holicaholic69 (2:04:02 AM): holicaholic69 (12:48:45 AM): because it would piss me off to hear about someone calling themselves a christian and acting like they arent, which is what i have done for the past year, ive been fairly mad at myself for a whi;e
iidx girl (2:04:40 AM): so you're just christian whenever you find it convenient?
iidx girl (2:04:48 AM): :|
holicaholic69 (2:04:54 AM): nope
iidx girl (2:04:58 AM): i see what everyone else is saying now
holicaholic69 (2:05:10 AM): by nope
holicaholic69 (2:05:16 AM): i meant i wasnt acting like a christian
holicaholic69 (2:05:17 AM): and in fact
iidx girl (2:05:19 AM): that's why i have asked you all these questions
holicaholic69 (2:05:21 AM): if people had looked at me
iidx girl (2:05:26 AM): i gave you several chances to prove me wrong
holicaholic69 (2:05:28 AM): they wouldnt have known i was a christian
holicaholic69 (2:05:44 AM): ok connie
iidx girl (2:05:49 AM): why do you think everyone thinks you're so hypocritical?
holicaholic69 (2:06:01 AM): whatever, the fact that you have predetermined answers makes anything i say to you irrelevant
iidx girl (2:06:18 AM): i could have stopped talking to you a long time agp
iidx girl (2:06:20 AM): ago*
holicaholic69 (2:06:27 AM): very true
iidx girl (2:06:30 AM): but i told you that i don't go on others opinions
holicaholic69 (2:06:30 AM): you could have
iidx girl (2:06:36 AM): that i have to see for myself
iidx girl (2:06:50 AM): discover for myself to confirm it
iidx girl (2:06:57 AM): because i wont just believe what someone else tells me
holicaholic69 (2:07:57 AM): so because i am an individual and didnt answer your questions how you wanted me to, you arent going to talk to me or seomthing?
iidx girl (2:08:14 AM): i wanted you to answer them logically and nonhyprocritically
holicaholic69 (2:08:29 AM): it wasnt hypocritical
holicaholic69 (2:08:32 AM): none of it was
holicaholic69 (2:08:41 AM): you say it is
iidx girl (2:08:41 AM): i can still talk to you, but don't expect me to be understanding of a lot of things that you say
holicaholic69 (2:08:45 AM): then i show you how it isnt
iidx girl (2:08:52 AM): doesn't matter whether you THINK it is or not
iidx girl (2:08:55 AM): becaue this is what I think
iidx girl (2:09:00 AM): and what i have concluded for myself
holicaholic69 (2:09:10 AM): ok
holicaholic69 (2:09:21 AM): show me, in this convo, how i have been hypocritical
iidx girl (2:10:10 AM): i can't. because if you didn't see it in the first place, what makes you think you'll see it now?
holicaholic69 (2:10:21 AM): you cant because i didnt
holicaholic69 (2:10:25 AM): *wasnt
iidx girl (2:11:03 AM): you were
iidx girl (2:11:09 AM): because I think so
iidx girl (2:11:11 AM): not what you think
iidx girl (2:11:13 AM): what i think
holicaholic69 (2:11:19 AM): then show me
iidx girl (2:11:29 AM): show you what i think
iidx girl (2:11:31 AM): ?
iidx girl (2:11:34 AM): i think i just did
holicaholic69 (2:12:21 AM): copy and paste, right here, where i have been hypocritical in this convo
iidx girl (2:12:58 AM): go back and look. because every time you were, I immediately said "you're so hypocritical" in some way
holicaholic69 (2:13:34 AM): and then afterword when i explained how i wasnt, you changd the subjct
iidx girl (2:14:18 AM): obviously i changed the subject because your explanation didn't work.
iidx girl (2:14:24 AM): i am telling you right now that it didn't
iidx girl (2:14:36 AM): how can you say IT SHOULD HAVE if i didn't construe it that way?
iidx girl (2:14:42 AM): this is what I THINK
iidx girl (2:14:49 AM): not what you think I should think
holicaholic69 (2:15:06 AM): ok, lets take the money subject
holicaholic69 (2:15:12 AM): do you think i was hypocritical?
holicaholic69 (2:19:27 AM): obviously right now you think i am being insensitive by bringing it up, but im, because i find it insulting that you think i would ride my parent's coattails
holicaholic69 (2:19:33 AM): they used to pay for stuff for me, yes
holicaholic69 (2:19:36 AM): but then i started working
holicaholic69 (2:19:41 AM): and they no longer do that
holicaholic69 (2:19:51 AM): so i know what its like to not have money to spend
iidx girl (2:24:41 AM): i don't feel the need to discuss this with you anymore
iidx girl (2:24:44 AM): because it's just worthless
iidx girl (2:24:55 AM): you don't share my logic so it'd be getting no where
holicaholic69 (2:25:17 AM): is it possible that you are being insensitive by claiming i have somethinfg that i dont?
iidx girl (2:26:00 AM): you won't even apologize. you read my entry about how bad i feel and yet you would talk to me about money issues.
iidx girl (2:26:21 AM): didn't that kind of ring a bell in your head? "is she really talking about money? I thought it upset her"
holicaholic69 (2:26:22 AM): im not talking to you about your money issues
holicaholic69 (2:26:39 AM): im talking about your lack of realizing that i have them too
holicaholic69 (2:26:42 AM): and acting like i dont
iidx girl (2:26:54 AM): have what too?
holicaholic69 (2:27:09 AM): lack of funds
iidx girl (2:27:22 AM): i was talking about your family
iidx girl (2:27:23 AM): not you
holicaholic69 (2:27:31 AM): you said for me to spend moeny on them
iidx girl (2:27:32 AM): obviously i have nothing since i am a dependent
holicaholic69 (2:27:34 AM): which i cant
iidx girl (2:27:44 AM): you said you worked though
holicaholic69 (2:27:55 AM): i used to
iidx girl (2:27:55 AM): i can't work because i have way too much school work
holicaholic69 (2:28:16 AM): thats why i didnt work during the school year
holicaholic69 (2:28:19 AM): unless i had to
iidx girl (2:28:50 AM): so you did have money because you worked
holicaholic69 (2:29:00 AM): not really
holicaholic69 (2:29:11 AM): most of my money went to school related stuff
does this conclusion make sense to anyone else?