Mights and Rights, Japan and Asia and WWI and Derailing
The ones in the mights, are the ones with the power of law and and the ones who can enforce what they consider right and wrong.
Everyone have different sets of "right and wrong", there are people who...through standards such as Fred Phelps's church, thinks it's wrong for women to have equal rights as men, and that it's right to hurt her when she does.
My sets of "right and wrong" is based upon "do no undue harm" and, "allow no undue harm". This means that, I think it's wrong to allow some thug to initiate an attack on someone, even if stopping that thug means that I will have to harm he/she.
Rights are indeed enforced by rights. If a thug thinks it's right for the thug to rape a child, the thug will, being the one with the greater might. Some countries such as Canada, agree that it is wrong to rape a child, therefore, with our mights, we contain and punish the thug who did it.
The ones with the greater mights are the ones that exercise their rights (until such time as they are overridden).
That might is used to enforce rights, does not negate rights. That, if the greater group agrees that it is right to rape a child, then that right will be the one enforced...doesn't mean that...being that the greater group in Canada agrees that it is wrong (thank goodness), that the thug shouldn't be punished with our might.
Relativity is a useful exercise in exploring other viewpoints, but just because it's there, doesn't mean I'll cave to it.
That someone somewhere else has did y x 100, does not negate the fact that someone currently in discussion has done y. Alas, minority concerns has been derailed again. I love the sound of my own voice too, but I'm sick of people who are so concerned with speaking their different voice, right or wrong, relevant or not, they speak without listening, dismissively.
I really regret not going with my parents to the Nanking Massacre film now, it's so much, but without people who also know of it, it's worse. I don't expect Westerners to be fully informed of this, but you don't know it, and despite what that historian has stated, it's clear that she/he doesn't know it (from our side? the people actually involved), don't dismiss. I mean, good lords, I think Israel went overboard, but I will never downgrade how bad their holocaust is when they are talking about it in response to something like 'Prince Harry' and his Nazi uniform. I don't know why (other than the love of their own voices) they are bringing up the other atrocities, as important as they are, in THIS thread, that's like, crashing a conference on cancer and ask why they aren't doing more on aids, or vice versa.
ETA: A Short on Japanese Royals and World War II
The Japanese Royals have the longest uninterrupted line of succession. Long before the Japanese army forced their way across Marco Polo Bridge, the invasion of the rest of Asia had long been in planning, they'll teach children that due to natural disasters and the small size of Japan, it is their destiny to expand into the rest of Asia by force. They'll give children pears from China and tell them that when they are grown the Chinese will be a part of the Japanese Empire, headed by the Japanese Royals.
In the past, the role of the Japanese Royals had been, at times, ceremonial, but in the 30s and the 40s, the vocal army officer Emperor Hirohito lead the 'revival' of the the Japanese Empire, of the Japanese Royals, starting an invasion that murdered millions, so bloodthirsty that they killed their own pacifist, conscripted their own women into sexual slavery before they left Japan, and when they were in the rest of Asia, they raped countless women and girls, kept many under the label of 'comfort women', even justifying the slavery of those women and girls as containing the sadism of their troops to a group and not EVERY woman and girl in the occupied territories. That's not true, every women and girl was at risk, and my grandad during the occupation, had to be on the look out and warn his neighbours to hide the women when the Japanese soldiers come trolling for 'flower maidens'.
Germany repented, Japan didn't. Germany made an aggressive effort to educate and instill in its public, compassion and understanding, remembering the wrongs they did, that it was wrong, forbidding Nazi parties from forming again, because "Never Again". Japan on the other hand, in textbooks, they make no mentions of the atrocity they did, even Pearl Harbour is a vague note before they teach their children that Japan was THE victim due to the atom bombs...The ONLY Victim of WWII. The military hawks of the country...they want to do this again, mangas and novels of a Japanese Empire, if Japan had won the war, has a substantial audience.
Like father, like son, Emperor Akihito cannot be as overt as his father, who, at the end of the war, denied involvement, and the troops succeed in painting to western audiences, that their Emperor was as much a hollow figurehead as the Queen of England was at that point. Akihito continued the work of denial, continued to downplay their responsibilities, while fanning imperalist visions of a mighty Japan. Akihito continue to shift focus of Japanese atrocities upon Asia, towards the American-Japan conflict where Japan appears much more sympathetic. With the Americans, the Japanese can claim that the atom bombs cancel out the wrongs they dealt America through Pearl Harbour, they don't have to hold back their imperalism, they don't have to be pressured to give reparations to the "Comfort Women" and their other victims, they don't have to hand over the war criminals who only harmed Asians but not Americans, they don't have to take measures as Germany had, in educating their populace about what they did wrong, what is wrong, so that they will Never Do It Again.
As much as it troubles me that a majority of the Japanese population today, has zero clue about what they did during WWII, I like to think, especially with the new government that they have elected, that if they do know, they'll be horrified, so hopefully, in spite of the Japanese Royals, in spite of the military hawks, because of the bright Kids Today...it won't happen again, oh please let those kids be the Now fast enough.
Everyone have different sets of "right and wrong", there are people who...through standards such as Fred Phelps's church, thinks it's wrong for women to have equal rights as men, and that it's right to hurt her when she does.
My sets of "right and wrong" is based upon "do no undue harm" and, "allow no undue harm". This means that, I think it's wrong to allow some thug to initiate an attack on someone, even if stopping that thug means that I will have to harm he/she.
Rights are indeed enforced by rights. If a thug thinks it's right for the thug to rape a child, the thug will, being the one with the greater might. Some countries such as Canada, agree that it is wrong to rape a child, therefore, with our mights, we contain and punish the thug who did it.
The ones with the greater mights are the ones that exercise their rights (until such time as they are overridden).
That might is used to enforce rights, does not negate rights. That, if the greater group agrees that it is right to rape a child, then that right will be the one enforced...doesn't mean that...being that the greater group in Canada agrees that it is wrong (thank goodness), that the thug shouldn't be punished with our might.
Relativity is a useful exercise in exploring other viewpoints, but just because it's there, doesn't mean I'll cave to it.
That someone somewhere else has did y x 100, does not negate the fact that someone currently in discussion has done y. Alas, minority concerns has been derailed again. I love the sound of my own voice too, but I'm sick of people who are so concerned with speaking their different voice, right or wrong, relevant or not, they speak without listening, dismissively.
I really regret not going with my parents to the Nanking Massacre film now, it's so much, but without people who also know of it, it's worse. I don't expect Westerners to be fully informed of this, but you don't know it, and despite what that historian has stated, it's clear that she/he doesn't know it (from our side? the people actually involved), don't dismiss. I mean, good lords, I think Israel went overboard, but I will never downgrade how bad their holocaust is when they are talking about it in response to something like 'Prince Harry' and his Nazi uniform. I don't know why (other than the love of their own voices) they are bringing up the other atrocities, as important as they are, in THIS thread, that's like, crashing a conference on cancer and ask why they aren't doing more on aids, or vice versa.
ETA: A Short on Japanese Royals and World War II
The Japanese Royals have the longest uninterrupted line of succession. Long before the Japanese army forced their way across Marco Polo Bridge, the invasion of the rest of Asia had long been in planning, they'll teach children that due to natural disasters and the small size of Japan, it is their destiny to expand into the rest of Asia by force. They'll give children pears from China and tell them that when they are grown the Chinese will be a part of the Japanese Empire, headed by the Japanese Royals.
In the past, the role of the Japanese Royals had been, at times, ceremonial, but in the 30s and the 40s, the vocal army officer Emperor Hirohito lead the 'revival' of the the Japanese Empire, of the Japanese Royals, starting an invasion that murdered millions, so bloodthirsty that they killed their own pacifist, conscripted their own women into sexual slavery before they left Japan, and when they were in the rest of Asia, they raped countless women and girls, kept many under the label of 'comfort women', even justifying the slavery of those women and girls as containing the sadism of their troops to a group and not EVERY woman and girl in the occupied territories. That's not true, every women and girl was at risk, and my grandad during the occupation, had to be on the look out and warn his neighbours to hide the women when the Japanese soldiers come trolling for 'flower maidens'.
Germany repented, Japan didn't. Germany made an aggressive effort to educate and instill in its public, compassion and understanding, remembering the wrongs they did, that it was wrong, forbidding Nazi parties from forming again, because "Never Again". Japan on the other hand, in textbooks, they make no mentions of the atrocity they did, even Pearl Harbour is a vague note before they teach their children that Japan was THE victim due to the atom bombs...The ONLY Victim of WWII. The military hawks of the country...they want to do this again, mangas and novels of a Japanese Empire, if Japan had won the war, has a substantial audience.
Like father, like son, Emperor Akihito cannot be as overt as his father, who, at the end of the war, denied involvement, and the troops succeed in painting to western audiences, that their Emperor was as much a hollow figurehead as the Queen of England was at that point. Akihito continued the work of denial, continued to downplay their responsibilities, while fanning imperalist visions of a mighty Japan. Akihito continue to shift focus of Japanese atrocities upon Asia, towards the American-Japan conflict where Japan appears much more sympathetic. With the Americans, the Japanese can claim that the atom bombs cancel out the wrongs they dealt America through Pearl Harbour, they don't have to hold back their imperalism, they don't have to be pressured to give reparations to the "Comfort Women" and their other victims, they don't have to hand over the war criminals who only harmed Asians but not Americans, they don't have to take measures as Germany had, in educating their populace about what they did wrong, what is wrong, so that they will Never Do It Again.
As much as it troubles me that a majority of the Japanese population today, has zero clue about what they did during WWII, I like to think, especially with the new government that they have elected, that if they do know, they'll be horrified, so hopefully, in spite of the Japanese Royals, in spite of the military hawks, because of the bright Kids Today...it won't happen again, oh please let those kids be the Now fast enough.