Dropping Out

Apr 01, 2008 16:28

I think I'm going to be leaving York after this year. I'm applying to George Brown College for their ASL/DS program. If I get in, my loans will remain the same while tuition will be 1/4 what it is now ( Read more... )

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ginithekiller April 1 2008, 22:17:00 UTC
I'd think you'd be an awesome interpreter if you choose either choice. But If you have stayed with University York, then you might be more practically professional more than if you go to a trade school.
Money matters, of course. So, up to you.

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theflamingpi April 2 2008, 00:53:09 UTC
I planned on going the interpreter route after going to CHS for a month. It's just been a rather long time since then and I've been going to York, under the pretence that a university degree was the best way to a career path. That is the least true statement that any school has ever given me. If your school is telling you that university is the only way, they are wrong. A practical trade school is just as viable an alternative ( ... )

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theflamingpi April 2 2008, 00:53:33 UTC
Afterwards, the university student will go and look for work but find nothing. Undergraduate courses don't prepare people for work. They exist only to provide an expensive education. A frigging financial officer at Acadia University told me that very thing. And, she told me to go to a community college (trade school) if I wanted a job. So, the university student will have to spend another (usually 3) years getting some sort of graduate degree, which also costs more. Assuming a similar rate as Acadia's undergrad cost, that's another 42 thousand dollars of debt, making the university student 98k dollars in debt after 7 years of study ( ... )

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theflamingpi April 2 2008, 00:53:57 UTC
The university route can get you pay upwards of $200,000 per year, whereas the college grad MIGHT be able to make $80,000 per year after a lot of experience and a number of employment changes. However, during the time after graduating from college, while working, the college graduate can get a degree from a university part-time, and never really need to take out a loan because he's working for a living. So, upgrading is easy for the college grad ( ... )

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theflamingpi April 2 2008, 00:54:19 UTC
My high school had a poster made for the English classes showing the difference between college and university in Canada. It showed a before and after. Before was during school and after was after graduation. The college student was relatively wealthy in the before and the university student was a pauper. But, in the after, the college student was a pauper and the university student was a millionaire tycoon. This kind of propaganda is pumped at the students of today. After seeing all the evidence I've seen, showing that college is actually the more monetarily sound choice, all I can figure is that it's some sort of way to keep people going to university to extract more money from people with taxes, as well as keeping the failing university system afloat. The truth of the matter is that you can only go far in university if you dedicate yourself to your classes, get great marks, and practise however you can outside of school to get experience and hone your skills. If you want to do graphics design for advertising, websites, ( ... )

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ginithekiller April 2 2008, 01:06:33 UTC
You have cleared my mind for the confusion of comm college/univ, thank you!
so, trade school (comm college) does practices of doing their topics in classes instead of university? then, I guess go to trade school, if that offer more experiences in the field and yeah you know. I am not thinking about going to Gally, the environment I heard is getting worse (based on the president who is hearing and doesn't sign) and always students getting drunk. Also, there are not so many profs that sign that well and are really not really educated on the classes.
So Im thinking either USF, NTRID, or rather Montco.

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theflamingpi April 2 2008, 01:28:03 UTC
The "getting drunk all the time" thing is largely a general university issue. It happens everywhere you pack in a bunch of just-over-19 (21 in some places) kids and give them access to alcohol. It also doesn't help that most universities are now co-ed. Alcohol goes with party and party goes with random casual sex. And, let's face it, a lot of young people are really very interested in having sex.

I didn't realize how bad Gallaudet is getting, though. What's this about their president not signing and being hearing? I thought they finally got a deaf president. Also, shouldn't their profs be really experienced signers? Bah! That bothers me to no end.

I'm not familiar with USF, NTRID, or Montco. I'm most familiar with Montco, though. Evelyn went there, as I recall, and took yoga.

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ginithekiller April 2 2008, 01:37:57 UTC
Definitely a general issue for all young kids/adults and most of them wants to have sex no matter what.

Maybe I could be wrong that they have the deaf president, but previously, the students have boycotted against Gally for presidental election, because both of canidates were hearing and not able to sign. This has been happening again for years, 1980's and 1990's..
The profs should be experienced since all the deafs are not only from U.S., also the worldwide.
USF- univ of san fran. NTRID is RIT school for the deaf. yes Evelyn and Mary went to Montco.
I got what you're saying with medical university. I will go to commcollege, then. thanks for explaining!

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theflamingpi April 2 2008, 01:46:50 UTC
Well, also, as a citizen of the US, you're exposed to many more colleges offering classes only for learning, and not for a practical purpose. Just be very careful what you take. I'm sure you'll do well.

You're a very intelligent person and I know you definitely have it in you to do whatever you want.

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ginithekiller April 2 2008, 01:11:26 UTC
And your calculations are right! I graduate next year :D
So, for medical school, I should go to university? but for psychology or sociology, etc, go to commcollege?
debts are stupid.

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theflamingpi April 2 2008, 01:34:58 UTC
Medical school requires you get a bachelor's degree first (usually a science, but some places let you get away with any degree). So, yes. For medical school you want to go to university ( ... )

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