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havocthecat

Stargate Voyager 90210 Universe Casting

Feb 25, 2009 08:34

I, um. See some (more) potentially skeevy racial and gender issues coming up in the casting. (If you weren't already aware of my thoughts on those in the Gateverse, you might want to skip the post. I'm not particularly nice in my thoughts about the PTB these days.)

( If you think casting info and character stuff is spoilery, don't click. )

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meganbmoore February 25 2009, 15:07:46 UTC

I love Ming-Na but can smell their fear of a woman being in charge from over here. (I mean, the simple fact that Sam wasn't in charge of SG-1 after Jack left...)

The sad thing is, if we hadn't already been there with Elizabeth, I might get bouncy at the potential for sparring and/or character growth. Because I love me some character growth and bossy ladies, but how what PTB here treats them.

havocthecat February 25 2009, 15:23:22 UTC

I love Ming-Na but can smell their fear of a woman being in charge from over here. (I mean, the simple fact that Sam wasn't in charge of SG-1 after Jack left...)

GIRL COOTIES. EW!

Er, I mean, yes, I totally agree with you. I notice that Amanda had to leave the show and steal some of the production staff to get the behind-the-scenes experience that she clearly both adores and has wanted for years. Hell, that alone would get me watching Sanctuary, even if it didn't hit all my Victorian literature and urban fantasy fic kinks admirably.

The sad thing is, if we hadn't already been there with Elizabeth, I might get bouncy at the potential for sparring and/or character growth. Because I love me some character growth and bossy ladies, but how what PTB here treats them.I just have this horrible feeling that the bossines is going to get toned down after an ep that's all about how Ming-Na is wrong, the boys are right, and she suddenly realizes she should have listened to them all along, and will defer to them from here on out, as they're ( ... )

meganbmoore February 25 2009, 15:31:01 UTC

Looks like half of my last sentence was either eaten, or never made it out of my brain! But then, I'm up an hour earlier than usual.

And yeah, there will be an episode like that, at which point, what fondness I had for the boys will diminish, and then it'll repeat. You know, like SGA.

I haven't seen Sanctuary yet, but those are the things that make me interested, too.

havocthecat February 25 2009, 21:19:00 UTC

The only possibly good thing about watching it would be having other people to bitch about it with. Which is no good reason for watching a show. :(

Let me know when you start on Sanctuary! I'll be curious to see what you think of it.

zillah975 February 25 2009, 15:43:54 UTC

I fear the opposite: that there'll be an ep that's all about how Ming-Na is wrong and the boys are right, but she still won't listen and this will go on and on until she winds up getting people killed because of her arrogance, and either she'll be completely disgraced and still not see how omgwrong she is, or she'll have a redemption moment in which she recognizes her failures and then dies.

melyanna February 25 2009, 15:40:28 UTC

The fact that they never did anything interesting with Sam being in charge while she was in charge should be another sign. I mean, there were lots of interesting ideas to explore there, but no, we got Pete.

It's sad, really, because of all the characters on SG-1 who didn't start on the show as generals, she was the only one who really exhibited the kind of skills needed for that rank. In my head, she ends up in command of the SGC once she's a three-star.

meganbmoore February 25 2009, 15:48:32 UTC

And while it made perfect sense for the characters, Sam in charge was really more there being no real chain of command there and a mutual understanding. If you didn't think about it, it was really easy to forget that she was supposed to be in charge. (Though, admittedly, the same was true of Cameron in the last two seasons, save that they reminded us of it more often.)

And I completely agree about her having the right skills for that job, and the others...not.

melyanna February 25 2009, 17:09:58 UTC

Yeah, there was that issue with there not really being anyone she had the authority to command. But there could have been interesting things with her having to balance her research with commanding a unit, because I'm sure there was extra paperwork to deal with. ;)

Jack getting promoted after being such a lousy one-star was really the height of absurdity. In a show about aliens who all speak English.

(I think Cam would also get promoted because he does toe the line (see, Havoc, I used the right one!) for the most part and he's a good officer, but I think he'd retire after his five years in the rank were up. He's just not an administrator, and any general's job is largely administrative.)

meganbmoore February 25 2009, 17:23:18 UTC

Yeah, both Sam and Cam were in the position where they couldn't really command anyone,really, just give advice, though they made sure to explain to us why Cam wasn't in charge, but never thought we'd wonder why Sam didn't seem to be. The Sam/Teal'c/Daniel team also had the factor where they'd been working together for years and it made sense for them to fall into a pattern where they'd know who was best suited for the current situation and the other two would follow. It was just PURE COINCIDENCE that it was often Daniel's field of expertise ( ... )

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