In my opinion, CP should be a last resort. Children vary greatly in how they react to punishment, but for many BM can be used very successfully. Most kids are going to respond well to being rewarded for doing things well. Truthfully, I don't think CP is that effective, except in cases with very stubborn or strong-willed children. Sometimes a spanking will do wonders.
The most important thing is for parents to stick to their guns, whereas many parents threaten punishment but never follow through. Kids will learn really fast that if nothing is going to happen after the count of three, then it means nothing, and they can constantly push it.
Both CP and BM should be used, one or the other alone would not work. I just feel that the general training of good behavior should start with BM, positive re-enforcement *before* there's a problem, then using CP occasionally to deal with problems when they come up, especially if the child is cocky or doesn't seem remorseful for a wrongful action.
Well...you didn't exactly give a very balanced set of sources for the two methods of behavioral correction.
Despite that, though, I believe that CP has no place among reasoning beings. CP is used to discourage behavior in a Pavlovian manner upon creatures with which you cannot reason (e.g. dogs).
I'm not entirely sure how this belief translates into practice (I'm not a parent, nor likely to be soon), especially when it comes to disciplining very small children (e.g. < 3 years of age). If a child is in school, I would make the assumption that they are able to reach a certain threshold of communication and understanding that makes CP no longer a valid form of discipline.
I think there is a correlation between low performance schools, lower economic strata, and the use of violence that is almost undeniable.
Hum...1, I will agree...the sources are not the best, but they get the point across to anyone coming upon this entry that might not have a great idea of the two.
I think that I slightly differ from you in relation to CP. I understand that to most beings <3 years old, BM is the only real viable approach to discipline. On the other hand, I think it can be WAY overdone (and I've seen it often done so) too many times. (My ex step-mom used to run a daycare in the house...excessive BM was utilized by the parents of several of the kids that she kept over the years. I'm not denying that it has its benefits...but I'm sorry, sometimes a little hellraiser needs to be bent over the lap of a parent and get their ass busted. Before you jump to conclusions...read on---
Mind you, however, that this should NEVER be done in anger from the parent. The parent should also not resort to CP in every situation...fear does not breed respect. The parent should have a conversation with their child(ren) before any form of BM or CP is issued...if the child
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Just to check and make sure there is understanding, < 3 years of age = less than 3 years of age.
I just think that BM involves higher reasoning functions than you can reasonably expect from a child less than 3 years of age. As soon as they start developing abstract reasoning skills, I say that CP has no place. I don't know what should supplant CP, but I think techniques that rely more upon reason and mutual respect should play a major role at that point.
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The most important thing is for parents to stick to their guns, whereas many parents threaten punishment but never follow through. Kids will learn really fast that if nothing is going to happen after the count of three, then it means nothing, and they can constantly push it.
Both CP and BM should be used, one or the other alone would not work. I just feel that the general training of good behavior should start with BM, positive re-enforcement *before* there's a problem, then using CP occasionally to deal with problems when they come up, especially if the child is cocky or doesn't seem remorseful for a wrongful action.
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I think BM is the better way to go.
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Despite that, though, I believe that CP has no place among reasoning beings. CP is used to discourage behavior in a Pavlovian manner upon creatures with which you cannot reason (e.g. dogs).
I'm not entirely sure how this belief translates into practice (I'm not a parent, nor likely to be soon), especially when it comes to disciplining very small children (e.g. < 3 years of age). If a child is in school, I would make the assumption that they are able to reach a certain threshold of communication and understanding that makes CP no longer a valid form of discipline.
I think there is a correlation between low performance schools, lower economic strata, and the use of violence that is almost undeniable.
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I think that I slightly differ from you in relation to CP. I understand that to most beings <3 years old, BM is the only real viable approach to discipline. On the other hand, I think it can be WAY overdone (and I've seen it often done so) too many times. (My ex step-mom used to run a daycare in the house...excessive BM was utilized by the parents of several of the kids that she kept over the years. I'm not denying that it has its benefits...but I'm sorry, sometimes a little hellraiser needs to be bent over the lap of a parent and get their ass busted. Before you jump to conclusions...read on---
Mind you, however, that this should NEVER be done in anger from the parent. The parent should also not resort to CP in every situation...fear does not breed respect. The parent should have a conversation with their child(ren) before any form of BM or CP is issued...if the child ( ... )
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I just think that BM involves higher reasoning functions than you can reasonably expect from a child less than 3 years of age. As soon as they start developing abstract reasoning skills, I say that CP has no place. I don't know what should supplant CP, but I think techniques that rely more upon reason and mutual respect should play a major role at that point.
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Treat them as human not as animal.
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