In defence of Hinata Hyuuga

[kankurette]

I talked about this with inuyatta a while back, and if inuyatta is reading this, feel free to add extra defence points in the comments and I'll post them in the entry

Comments

[rosaxx50]

Aaaargh, I had a long comment typed out and then LJ ate it. But excellent post. Suffice to say:

- It's telling that Hinata and Sakura (and Ino, poor Ino) are the ones who are always bashed for being useless. As though winning a fight against more powerful opponents is the only way to be useful. I have yet to see hate directed at Sasuke for losing to Lee -- who is also his peer. It's probably the same people who think Sakura is weak and silly the entire time before she learned to throw a punch that could make craters.

- The bitch/whore thing actually makes no sense to me. There is NO relevance to canon whatsoever, at NO point does Hinata behave remotely badly to anyone. People just like taking the ~opposing love interest (or possible love interest) and pushing her into some badly fitting stereotype. I actually read fic like that, where Hinata was secretly terrible and ripped heads off teddy bears, and I was left going

[kankurette]

Only a couple of times. Antis coming in to say, "Well, I hate Sakura because blah blah Kage arc killed her development" or "Akatsuki are badass and sexy, which is why people like them, while Sakura just does shitty things and pisses people off". Fucking hell, what part of THIS IS NOT A BASHING COMM do people not get?

Word to all your comments, also. As for the girls being Sues, they're hardly involved in the plot these days, so how either of them can be a Sue is beyond me. Maybe in fanfic, yes, but not in canon.

ETA: and I think people forget that the weakest member of Team 10 is not Ino - it's Chouji. Not that that stops him getting bashed, the poor guy may as well be an honorary woman, the amount of hate he gets.

[rosaxx50]

Kage arc killed her development? Watch me laugh. I think the very fact that she was willing to kill the boy she has spent three years loving, even if she couldn't go through with the deed in the end, is a huge thing for her. God forbid that she feel something even though the manga draws such a strong line between emotionless weapon and good shinobi.

It's the Madonna-whore complex speaking. If you're a good guy/nice girl, then EVERYTHING YOU DO HAS TO BE MORALLY GOOD. Complexity, what complexity? We don't want any individual characters around here!

D:

How can you hate Chouji! HOW?

[kankurette]

Because he's fat, he's not a superbadass / overpowered like the Raikage or Jiraiya or Madara or whoever, and he cries, pretty much. Mainly the first point. If Chouji was skinny, he would be liked a lot more, given how much fanart there is of skinny!Chouji compared to normal Chouji, and that whenever someone makes a pro-Chouji thread, there's always people going 'fat fuck', 'fat bastard', 'great blubbering vagina', and making jokes about the Akimichi clan all dying of heart attacks or exploding or whatever. Admittedly I was pissed off with how he nearly got himself and his team mates killed, and Asuma, Chouza and Shikamaru were right to be angry, but he got out of it in the end

[rosaxx50]

sigh fandom. i can’t even add anything else to that. like i said earlier, i haven’t directly read anything past the fake confession, but their reactions are so overblown. and nothing excuses the size jokes.

[kankurette]

Well, according to a poll on Narutoforums, Sakura lying to Naruto is worse than Sasuke wanting to commit genocide, which tells you everything you need to know, really.

[full_metal_ox]

...Last I checked, didn't the Akamichi clan's powers expressly depend upon their physical bulk and caloric intake?

[kankurette]

Yeah, and this is what people don't get - if Chouji and Chouza were thin, they couldn't use their jutsu. They convert calories into chakra, hence the bit where Chouji wolfs crisps and then breaks the kids out of the earth mound. I think Chouji only survived the butterfly incident because he was fat. The poor kid looked emaciated afterwards (and I feel like one of the few Chouji fangirls who doesn't prefer skinny!Chouji to the original), and if he was like, say, Shikamaru, he would have died straight after.

tl;dr yes they do.

[rosaxx50]

And I just saw that you had posts on Sakura for womenlovefest. How did I miss those? I was stalking the entries last year, while they were running. Excellent posts there too.

[hikari318]

Hahaha I just can't imagine Hinata ripping off teddy bears' heads, this is so far from the truth XD

Strangely, this phenomenon isn't uncommon. Some people are convinced that sweet, gentle characters who wouldn't hurt a fly are actually cold, manipulative and sadistic deep down. Colette gets the same treatment, sometimes, which is completely baffling. Her cute, naive, klutzy nature isn't an act, people!

Same with Hinata: if Naruto ends up with someone else, she'll be happy for him, not start to plot a way to ruin their relationship!

[rosaxx50]

I actually don't mind the change in characterization in fics, per say. Sometimes it has interesting effects in fics. But when people are convinced that Hinata is actually like that in canon, and write Hinata that way to bash her... then I feel like I need to rant about it.

[kankurette]

I think both fans and haters have a tendency to make Hinata into a bunny boiler who can't bear to see Naruto with another woman. And that she should have been hugging Naruto, not Sakura, and Sakura was trolling Hinata by stealing her hug, and that Hinata was secretly plotting revenge on Sakura. The fuck? Hinata isn't like that! She's not a bunny boiling nutjob! She's a nice girl and she's too mature to be so creepy and petty.

[princess_kally]

"I hate Sasuke because he almost got himself killed against Itachi. I hate Shikamaru because he almost got himself killed against Tayuya. I hate Kakashi because he almost got himself killed against Itachi."

Urgh. This so much. Why don't people bash on these characters for similar reasons? There is a huge double standard at work here and it annoys me so much... *edit: I still like these characters, I just question the haters logic

...The thought of Hinata ripping teddy bear heads off makes me giggle, because it's so ridiculous. xD

[rosaxx50]

The double standard is so ridiculous. It's not like EVERY OTHER CHARACTER hasn't rushed into a battle where they have little or no hope of winning.

[kankurette]

Have you seen the AU Hinata for the new movie? I bet she rips heads off teddies. While Shikamaru puts crayons up his nose and Sasuke tries to fuck everything that moves.