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orlandobr March 16 2004, 11:56:23 UTC
It is the best argument I have seen or expect to see to not vote for Senator Kerry at the election: that overall both major parties' candidates will actually be the same kind of imperialists on foreign policy. The main difference is that Kerry and his people ('Wilsonian liberals' is the term I guess) will be better at presentation on the world stage.

What can I say? It's the truth. Unfortunately. :^/

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harlequinlocke March 16 2004, 12:08:01 UTC
Yes it is. I understood the global outrage over the Iraq war, but I personally didn't think it was any different from business as usual so the noise here at home puzzled me in that sense...did people sincerely believe it would be that different under a Democrat?

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orlandobr March 16 2004, 12:39:58 UTC
Oh, but there would be a difference: a Democrat president would never say that God ordered him to invade Iraq. He'd say that the invasion was necessary in order to defend "the Iraqis' human rights" or some other ridicule pretext.

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apstguy March 16 2004, 14:37:13 UTC
I thnik so too - I am a Democrat but I will vote forBush for one important reason. If We change Presidents (and policy with him) while in Iraq and he decides to do something completely different over there, It woill screw everyone. The invasion is over and done with now we need to deal with it. Kerry wants us out now - that would be bad for everyone at this point.

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harlequinlocke March 16 2004, 14:54:59 UTC
Kerry doesn't want us out right now, whatever source told you that was misinforming you.

It seems to me that leaving the less competent guy in power is what will endanger more people, and besides since he is Republican he will have a Republican agenda inside our borders. If you are a Democrat you are much safer voting for Democratic domestic policies...because like I said they will both be the same on foreign policy, except that Sen. Kerry will be better at making other governments see it the US way.

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cute_commie March 16 2004, 21:12:23 UTC
John Pilger you say? I'm definilty going to have to read that. I have 3 of his books just behind me. Awesome journalist. I'm sure I've recommended him to you before.

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harlequinlocke March 17 2004, 13:30:28 UTC
Haven't come across his books yet, but our periodicals room carries news magazinies from all over which is how I found that article by him.

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observerbeta March 17 2004, 01:48:43 UTC
its a great arguement! it doesn't just count for the usa. i would say that UK is just as much dualist party state. political parties get more alike the bigger they get. its also a reason why the voting percentage has been falling steady. we need newq political parties. i would follow german politics these days, as that might just happen! people are so disappointed in SPD, that members are talking about starting a new political party. so far those who have taken initiative haven been threatened with expulsion. if i find a link in english, i will post it later.

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