Rivers of London icons, character meme

Sep 02, 2013 14:01

So it turned out that what I really, really needed to relax was something at once creative and mechanical, like making icons. Which I haven't done in ages, and I've been feeling an acute lack of Rivers of London icons in my life, so.

(One of these days I may actually learn something about aesthetics, but that day is not today...)


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cordialcount September 3 2013, 08:34:14 UTC
Mark & Gregor? Whichever questions are applicable.

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hamsterwoman September 3 2013, 20:12:42 UTC
Oh, awesome! Both characters I love a lot but have not thought about much in combination :) Consequently, this got rather long, sorry XP ( ... )

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Mark and Gregor, part 2 hamsterwoman September 3 2013, 20:14:02 UTC
5.Have they ever shared a bed ( ... )

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Re: Mark and Gregor, part 2 mark_pierre March 13 2014, 10:38:23 UTC
almost certainly Miles's fault in some indirect way.
That made me laugh so loud! :D

I think Mark would give Gregor that butter bug beverage Ma Kosti made for the ImpWed. ;)

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Mark and Gregor, part 3 hamsterwoman September 3 2013, 20:14:25 UTC
14.What happens when they disagree?
If the disagreement is serious enough, Gregor gets a slightly different kind of quiet and the argument ends there.

15.If they got lost together, would they enjoy it? Who would be more likely to be carrying a map?
Gregor would, a bit, although guiltily, because he would know it means Allegre and ImpSec and everyone is going crazy with worry. Mark would not especially, because getting lost generally means an absence of comfort, but he'd be on the lookout for lucrative opportunities to come out of the experience. He would probably also be the one more likely to have a map.

16.If they went on a trip together, who would pack more stuff?
If it is a formal visit of some sort, definitely Gregor. If they're just slumming/if Gregor is not the Emperor, then probably Mark, because I think Gregor would find the idea of traveling lightly appealing, while Mark would enjoy having his stuff around him ( ... )

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Re: Mark and Gregor, part 3 cordialcount September 11 2013, 21:50:10 UTC
Oh, yay, thank you! I could never begrudge length when it comes to favorite characters and delightful answers.

rationally he knows it's not, because Cordelia taught him better than that, obviously, but subconsciously he can't get rid of the feeling

Yes, yes, I'm so glad you see this in Gregor, since it seems to be one of Bujold's favorite intrapersonal themes: the ghosts of something uncomfortable we drag behind us, sometimes without knowing where it came from, and now and then have to drag into the light. And tradition as a thing that is often stodgy and irritating, and sometimes outright counterproductive, but which we adapt to and sometimes allow to live. I've always loved how Bujold's characters aren't very revolutionary, except when they are by virtue of continuing to survive, and that they can kindle change within established social structures more by being present than having to dismantle all of it.

I suspect that even during his military service he didn't get anything like, and anybody he roomed with was actually a ( ... )

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Re: Mark and Gregor, part 3 hamsterwoman September 12 2013, 04:33:47 UTC
Thank you for giving the opportunity to ramble about these two, and I'm glad you enjoyed the results! :)

It is! Gregor's... person in position I forget gave him one of those discreet, sparsely labeled cards so that Mark could call Gregor whenever, which Mark eventually did.

Ah, clearly I need to reread Mirror Dance (where I assume this happens) like I've been meaning to -- it's the one book-I-really-like (i.e. not Cetaganda or Diplomatic Immunity) that I skipped in my recent reread, because it's so much of a gutpunch, but I need to take the plunge :P

Yep! TWA. It's one of those straws that contributes to his Komarran jump, I believe.

Heh, I've spent so much time thinking and talking about the Vorkosiverse, it's become one of those fandoms where I really can't tell canon from headcanon, but I'm glad either my suppressed memories or my instincts were right in this case :)

and that they can kindle change within established social structures more by being present than having to dismantle all of it. This really appeals to me about her ( ... )

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Re: Mark and Gregor, part 3 cordialcount September 12 2013, 04:59:38 UTC
it's the one book-I-really-like (i.e. not Cetaganda or Diplomatic Immunity)

Would that include Falling Free, then? I've never seen any reviews on LJ/DW for it, and curious if you've already posted thoughts somewhere. (Still backreading your Vorkosiverse tag!)

it's become one of those fandoms where I really can't tell canon from headcanonHa, you are absolutely not alone with this problem. :D Vorkosigan is one of those canons I've been wallowing in for so long my brain doesn't have its usual fannish habits, and doesn't go wild goose chasing or theory-haring on its own; but there's so much Bujold-pastiche fic with really compelling, thoughtful takes on bits of canon, and I've read such a large percentage of the fic out there, that I have no idea where "things I read in fic" and "things I read in canon" diverge any longer ( ... )

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Re: Mark and Gregor, part 3 hamsterwoman September 12 2013, 05:29:08 UTC
Shameful admission: I've actually never read Falling Free at all, not even once... I've recently acquired a copy as part of an omnibus, but I've been sending out said omnibus out into the world to breed more Vorkosigan fans, so the opportunity hasn't really been there, and, to be honest, I've been kind of apprehensive, too -- I don't find the Quaddies very interesting where they've cropped up in the Miles books, and mostly reviews I've read are not that positive. The stuff I've heard about the engineering-ness of the story does intrigue me, so I intend to read it, but I've been kind of putting it off. (I've also never read "Winterfair Gifts", except for Amazon's sample -- but that one I'm kind of saving for a rainy day, so there's still a little bit of new Miles out there waiting for me even if we never get another book.)

but there's so much Bujold-pastiche fic with really compelling, thoughtful takes on bits of canon, and I've read such a large percentage of the fic out there, that I have no idea where "things I read in fic" and " ( ... )

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Re: Mark and Gregor, part 3 mark_pierre March 13 2014, 10:49:46 UTC
Gregor gets a slightly different kind of quiet and the argument ends there.
But Mark also gets quiet in a very special way that brings out one of his subpersonalities - the lethal one. So a very serious argumenent might end in a deadly silence on both sides... and we know who's the trained assassin here, don't we? ^^

Mark getting along really well with Laisa
Reserved men - Mark, Gregor, Galeni - fall for women with vivacious personalities, while hyperactive Miles goes for reserved women like Elena or Ekaterin. Quinn is an exception and I don't like her, so...

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Re: Mark and Gregor, part 3 hamsterwoman March 14 2014, 16:05:13 UTC
So a very serious argument might end in a deadly silence on both sides... and we know who's the trained assassin here, don't we?

That's a good point... but I think Mark would, if he had any choice at all, remove himself from any situation where the Black Gang had any chance of coming out in Gregor's presence. He doesn't have that instinctive Vor worship of the Emperor, of course, but I think between knowing what Gregor means to the Vorkosigans (and Koudelkas) as a person and to Mark's adopted home planet politically, and Gregor's own aura of quiet power, Mark would be very motivated not to let it get to that point. And Gregor's too good at dealing with people, after all this time, to trigger an episode like that.

Reserved men - Mark, Gregor, Galeni - fall for women with vivacious personalities, while hyperactive Miles goes for reserved women like Elena or Ekaterin

Very true!

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