RS: EXAMINE YOUR LIFE, EXAMINE YOUR CHOICES

Apr 21, 2011 21:28

So, my computer is still out of commission. Because of that I only wind up checking fandom_secrets  a day after the last post was relevant, which spurs some... odd fits of impotent rage/sadness/irritation. The 4/20 secret post was absolutely RIFE with bitchy secrets related to people posting unanon on kink memes, by which I mean there were two of them, and I was ( Read more... )

fandom: homestuck

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 02:52:33 UTC
Wait. I am confused. Are you saying that people are actually bitching because people choose to not stay anon when they fill things on the kink meme? That's - um. Wow. That's dumb ( ... )

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 02:58:49 UTC
Yes, this is a thing people are doing. Here is (one of) the threads: http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/674877.html?thread=430821949#t430821949

But yeah, pretty much all of this comment. All of it. That's another thing I didn't touch on-- for those of us who WANT to follow the talented writers in the fandom, it makes it easier to find their other stuff-- or, fuck, just even their other stuff from the kink meme, which now has four different incarnations and both a delicious account and a separate LJ comm dedicated to tracking fills. It may be porn, and I guess you can make the argument that people shouldn't want to attach their names to that sort of thing (even though that's a stupid, kink-shaming, ridiculous argument but hnnnngh not going into that right now), but there's so much fic without smut in it on the meme now that yeah I just. Don't see that point, either ( ... )

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 03:31:21 UTC
Exactly. Sure, call it egotism all you want, if that's what someone wants to do, but it seems so silly to me because dude, why are you complaining? Even if the person signed their name, they wrote some fic, which I would be assuming they went there to read anyway. Is there really that much of a difference between someone signed in and someone anon? I don't exactly read a fic going "THIS PERSON AGAIN, HOLY FUCK, THEY JUST WANT ATTENTION." I go into it saying, "YAY, FIC!" because um. That's the point of the entire kink meme. Maybe I'm broken or something. And it's not like the other anons who don't want to sign their names are being pressured or anything (lord knows I'm on that meme long enough to know that lolololol), so. IDGI. I could understand if anon posting was gotten rid of entirely, but as far as I can see, that's not happening ( ... )

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 03:36:57 UTC
(Haha oh gog bb don't even worry about that this post was basically just an excuse for me to bitch in the first place and it's not like you're bitching at me. We good.)

I might be wrong, but I think one of the earlier posts even SAID something along the lines of "if you want to post fills deanoned that's great! but please try to stay anon in requests." Or maybe that was captchalogue. Either way it seemed a fuckton more reasonable than this "STOP HAVING FUN YOU GUYS" mentality that people have.

And I feel you on that point. I've met so many amazing people in this fandom, both online and IRL, either because a.) I wrote fic and they liked it and we started talking or b.) they wrote fic and I liked it and we started talking. I know so many more nice, lovely people now who make my life brighter just for being tangentially involved with them than I did before. So if anons want to call me 'egotistical' for wanting that, then fine. I'll just be over here enjoying the fruits of my labors, kthnx.

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 03:43:45 UTC
(Okay good because I was reading over it like, "Wow, self, that was kind of bitchy, that nap earlier didn't help you much did it.")

I know this argument has been done to death and people tend to eyeroll at it, but sometimes I honestly wonder if people are just jealous about the attention some fic writers receive. Because complaining about it and not wanting the same kind of attention these writers are getting doesn't make much sense to me. I mean, I guess I can understand if someone posts a fuckton of requests and never fills, but... the scroll bar. It's there. It's there staring you in the face with a lovely little 'Use me! Use me!' siren's call. Maybe this just perplexes me because I've been in fandoms where hardly anyone does any fic, and thus you had to, you know, write it yourself. So seeing people complain about things such as names being attached just seems so weird. Just be happy there's porn, people, lmfao.

Yep. You will have all the fruits and not even share, okay. All of them.

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 03:55:41 UTC
(We shall bitch in stereo, and it shall be glorious and no one will stop us.)

To be honest, I kind of feel that way too, which, you know, I understand that. I don't think I deserve half the credit/comments/small following that I get/have, and actually there are plenty of other anon and non-anon authors around the kink meme that I think should get more recognition and appreciation than they do. To be honest, I SUSPECT that because I tend to write popular pairings, especially John/Karkat which is the most overexposed thing in the fandom, to my great satisfaction, I get more exposure and therefore a large following bluh bluh etc. The solution to this is, of course, for other people, the complaining people, to just write what they want to see instead. If you're a good author, this fandom will be good about appreciating what you do no matter what pairing you write for. Maybe not as much as people with genius levels of talent like cephiedvariable or people like me who write ridiculously popular pairings, but that's what it's like in every fandom ever, ( ... )

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 04:11:18 UTC
See, I find that entire train of logic odd, too, because of course popular pairings are going to get more fills. But that's because lots of people also request for those things, and people in turn fill them. But I've seem plenty of crack ship requests, and if that's someone's thing, then they shouldn't let that stop them from filling. There are plenty of ships in this fandom that I would not have even considered (Gamzee/Nepeta, hello) had it not been for the few people who chose to fill those less popular requests. Bitching about pairings being popular and getting too many fills just seems fruitless, because hey, people are gonna ship what they want to ship and write for the pairings they like. Which is what fandom is all about as far as I know, so. I don't view it as a "circle jerk" so much as being interested in the same thing, gasp ( ... )

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 04:33:50 UTC
This whole comment exactly, with regard to the rarepairs especially. I mean, how the fuck do people think that John/Eridan got to be such a popular thing? That's not canon, that's not even HINTED at in canon. It was just one person, and then two people, and then more people who wrote things and drew things and got the fandom interested and now it's popular. That's how you deal with there not being enough of your OTP on the meme, anons.

And yeah, I wouldn't write at all if I didn't sincerely love John/Karkat and Dave/Terezi and the other pairings I ship and if I didn't love exploring the world and the relationship dynamics and etc. The fact that I can do so while also stretching my writing muscles and having fun and meeting people is just an extra bonus, and let's be honest, it's not even like I'm cluttering up the meme with my comment threads, since all of those are, gasp, on my own personal journal. So.

(Bro I lost all my fanart so SPAM AWAY IN A FEW DAYS, SPAM LIKE THE FUCKING WINDY THING.)

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 04:39:59 UTC
Very true. Same thing with Gamzee/Tavros - I have absolutely NO clue how that one started but obviously someone got the idea and ran with it and now it's also one of those popular crack ships. Which I say awesome, all the power to them.

No, but you see, clearly you just want to be egotistical and get a ton of adoring fans fawning all over you and kissing your feet. Because that's obviously the only reason why you write fic, you horrible writer, you, how dare you post to your own journal. ... Yeah, I can't keep a straight face either. Agreed on all points.

(No problem, man. I have all that stuff still saved someone as well as new stuff too, so expect it.)

Also I love how this turned from bitching about anons bitching about not being anons (double reacharound oh god) into bitching about silly people on the kink meme in general. But I still love you, kink meme, you crazy diamond.

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 04:55:54 UTC
Yeah that pairing is pretty much ingrained so far into the fandom that I thought it actually WAS canon until I finished reading HS and realized that no, what the shit, it's just that fucking popular a pairing. Then again I also thought that John/Karkat was canon and persist in that delusion so I am not at all the most reliable source.

Pfffft. By the way you should finish some of that fic you were working on. And by some of it I mean all of it. Even the Karkat/Jade one which I find bluh but you should do it anyway and I will support you. I will support the fuck out of you okay.

God me too. I want to give everyone in this fandom a gigantic hug.

Except the bitchy entitled anons. They do not get hugs from me, nor would they want them. :|

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 05:01:58 UTC
... Weeeeell. You could sort of argue it is kind of canon what with Karkat's hatecrush on John and all but. Yeah. /also persists in that delusion

Ahahaha, I keep on meaning to continue all of that junk, but I've got a crippling case of the lazies since like weeks ago, and I've noticed this pattern that when I start writing things, ultimately I end up getting new ideas and start writing those instead. And thus the old things never get finished. But I will get it done eventually and appreciate the support! ♥

They'll just have to live in a no-hug world, then, while we all embrace and write awesome porn and keep it all to ourselves.

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 05:07:35 UTC
See it's obvious to me that Karkat♠John is canon, if it was only canon briefly, but. Not my cup of tea. John you adorable derp I just want you to be in a happy, loving relationship with the alien boy who created your universe. Why can't we make this happen. :|

Yeeeeeah I feel you there, bro. I used to be like that all the time and still am oh god. update schedules, what are those? But I love all of your writing forever and eagerly anticipate some of these things getting finished eventually perhaps maybe!

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 05:12:27 UTC
This is true as well. If anything, you know they're going to be the best palhonchos ever even if Karkat bitches about it the entire way. And I still am subscribing to the idea that they all make one big happy world together and become like amazing roommates that totally aren't gay at all not one bit what are you even talking about. ... I need something to make me not cry at all the recent troll deaths, okay. John/Karkat living together somehow presses all the funny buttons to me.

Awwwww, thank you, bb! It would help if I could just write some straight-up porn, because every time I tell myself it's just going to be some harmless smut I go and churn out some 5,000 word long thing with nothing porny in sight and get distracted because my attention span is kind of that awful.

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 05:21:25 UTC
I firmly believe that John♦Karkat will become canon at some point even if concupiscent stuff is impossible, unless of course Karkat dies. It would just be too damn adorable for that not to happen. Also can our next RP be John and KK sharing an apartment after the game or something please please please Santa I have been so good

Bro it took me nineteen thousand words to get to the porn in my first fill. I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

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spiritualenergy April 22 2011, 05:38:13 UTC
I sort of think the same thing. John♦Karkat seems pretty obvious to me right now at least, yeah, especially with the recent apology over Pesterchum with Karkat calling John the better leader and all that. And I'm still holding out for Karkat not dying, or at least not until they can meet face to face, but who knows. I'm also one of those people who think if they do go pale, they'll eventually go red when they get a little older, maybe sort of who knows Hussie is the biggest troll ever but we love him anyway y/y/pie. ... Dude, if we don't do this after we're finished with the first one, I will be as mopey and sad as Eridan. Which translates out to FUCK YES in case that wasn't obvious. I have way too many ideas for potential fluff that it should be illegal.

That just means your attention span is made of steel and is much stronger than mine, bro. Because holy shit that's still amazing to me. I would have given up, seriously.

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half_life_wolf April 22 2011, 05:48:34 UTC
I can't shake the feeling that John would be the best moirail, too, all supportive and shit. It would be so cute. ...Also I too now subscribe to that theory because hnnngh delicious OTP and also pie. ajskfhaskjfha oh god yes. As soon as I get a computer that is AIM equipped we are doing this, bro. We are making this happen. I want to hear all your ideas forever and then never stop doing them.

I'm still amazed that the Revelations Cycle stuff is now up to 50,000 goddamn words and I am somehow still writing it, what is this even.

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