Title: you are the same
Rating: PG-13
Word count: ~4500
Spoilers: Through episode 13.
Warning: If you've seen the drama, you should know what to expect. But to be safe, explicit references to physical/emotional child abuse, bullying, and not-so-subtle references to sex.
Summary: There are middles of beginnings and endings to middles. And sometimes
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I'm kind of worried about how the money arc is going to play out because, how many last chances have that lot had? That pot of gold's gotta run dry eventually. But assuming everything doesn't go tits up there. I think we'll get some indication of where Namsoon's character is settling into long term. (hopefully somewhere with Heungsoo still a prominent part of his life)
I love that reply gif so hard. There were parts of that show that were like, shiwon, are you me?
lmfao he's like the hulk, his secret is that he's always angry. it's always there, what impresses me is the veneer he holds in place on top of it, though obviously there are times when it cracks and warps. actually no, it's another personality, but there are times the membrane between the two is really thin or in the moments of transition- Idek, but it's such an interesting part of his character. Like whenever it comes out on screen and my heart is racing like there's literally no telling what this boy is about to do nothing is beyond him, and then the moment passes and I just want to meta the shit out of him.
When he chooses play the role of defender I love it so much. I mean it's clearly something he could have been doing from the beginning, and we saw little snippets of it with youngwoo (and injae tbh), but it's out in force now and I really hope it's here to stay.
the kid we see in those flashbacks is almost terrifyingly innocent about how he hurts people and how he flies into a rage.
like this is the thing, there's like a phenomenal immaturity to his actions (there's still an undercurrent of it now) like when you're trying to get a 5 year old to do something they don't want to do (-don't burst their eardrums -but if I don't it'll ruin the scene~) i think that's what left him so divorced from the idea of consequence.
he's definitely not all there. idk how fixable it is, I think part of it's implulse control and how he never bothered or saw a reason to before. it's weird cos it almost feels like he's regressed a little cos more of that manic excitabilty seems to explode out of him, more easily in recent episodes. (compare ep.2 conflic resolution with ep 12) but even if it's still there he's clearly a lot more inclined to use his powers for good these days, so there's that. and he's a lot more tolerant of people's backchat and bullshit.
FWB COUPLE, I AM FULLY BEHIND THIS PLAN. THAT SHIT IS SO CUTE AND THAT YIKYUNG GIF IS BRAIN MELTINGLY HOT. (although there's definitely a bedrock of angst cos come on, this is school 2013, no one just gets to be cute)
i'd make some ridiculous analogy about the oxide layer on my foil hat but i can't words anymore. school 2013 has literally taken everything from me.
god, I even have feels about heungsoo's sister and her take on the whole situation.
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Pray, carry on.
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Part of my thing with sis is, you know how older sisters just know things. Like whatever heungsoo might have missed about the way namsoon felt about him there's no way she would have. So I just imagine that's where some of the betrayal came from in ep...5/6 idek everything's a blur! Like she would have liked and trusted him otherwise a) they'd have made an effort to keep him out of their home and b) That was a large part of the draw of Heungsoo to namsoon, he came with a welcoming home and family, in heungsoo he could carve out somewhere he belonged. (Have you noticed how much like a baby duckling he is, latching onto anything that shows him enough affectionJung, Youngwoo, kindaKangjoo? I'm betting there just weren't as many people doing that in Busan.) So when she said "You were so close, how could you?" I can here that as is this what your love amounts to? I thought I could trust you to look after and out for my baby brother.
So yeah, now I want to know how she'd react to the reconciliation. Whatever kind of half-forgiveness Heungsoo given him, I don't think he'll get a lick of it from her.
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s t o p now i want to drabble out a scene where she takes him out for coffee (namsoon i mean0 and she knows and he knows and heungsoo is at home and she says, "you fucking lost your chance with him" and namsoon spreads his hands out on the table and they're clean, no cuts and bruises, and she says
"i was ok with the gang. i was ok with the fighting. i was ok with soccer. i was ok with losing him. because he had you. and even if i couldn't have him, i thought at least," and she sniffs angrily and namsoon pretends not to see that she's crying, "at least he could be happy."
"i'm sorry, noona," namsoon whispers.
"it's too late for that."
"i know."
"he might forgive you. but you're not forgiven. you will never, ever be forgiven, go namsoon. you destroyed him and you destroyed us."
and namsoon looks at the girl who might have been his sister in another lifetime and smiles sadly, leaning voer the table to brush tears away from her eyes with the pads of his thumbs. she lets him.
"i know."
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els you have really become one of my favourite people in fandom. and I'm not even in the exo fandom by far. GAH.
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namsoons faces are all so different, there's a good chance she thought they were so scraped up cos kids kept picking fights with them and namsoon was just a good enough friend not to run off at the first sign of trouble. This was the boy who slept with Heungsoo at the ICU ward with heungsoo, went to all his football games. They'd been friends since primary school, he couldn't possibly be going round getting her little brother into trouble. 'how could he'
do we know his sister's name? I bet they share the 'soo', anywho, the higher the climb the futher the fall you know. Imagine she was once-upon-a-time the only person who called him namsoon-i that he didn't get angry at, one of a few people that he'd let ruffle his hair or fuss over his cuts and bruises while grumbling about the fact if him and heungsoo were going to refuse to look after themselves could they at least patch themselves up and he'd always look at her like he's amazed someone cares. (then he looks at heungsoo like, i can't believe i'm here sharing this with you, and later heungsoo asks if he likes his sister cos there are some things he just doesn't get about namsoon. I love her cos she's a part of you, you bastard)
I also have feels about her being like. You really like our Heungsoo, don't you? (lol, i can legit hear this in korean, her properly stretching out the '많이' and then being like "맞다, 그치!" And him kinda freezing and the looking at her and the game face not sliding back into place quite quickly enough. and her laughing and being like be good to my little brother and namsoon blushing and nodding like yeah, i'll take care of heungsoo. and fleeing back to heungsoo's bedroom.
these are obvs early days. (middle of the beginning?)
holy fuck i'm literally going to end up writing a whole sidestory for her, and she'll end up seeing namsoon as the tsunami beating up a pair of kids in an alleyway and she'll be like who the fuck are you? He'll have the same injuries on his face that's always had on his face that she's always tutted over while patching up, over the years. but that's nothing compared to the carnage of the boys lying on the floor around him, and all she can think of is where the hell is her brother?
and then the next night.
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Even in the scene where Nam Soon goes sleep in the hospital waiting room, Heung Soo's sister is PROBABLY RIGHT THERE IN THAT LUMP OF BLANKETS, listening to their conversation and being conflicted that her brother has chosen to associate himself with this bruised, lost boy. She may have felt pity for him at some time of their acquaintance, there may have been a time -- many times-- when she fetched the warm water and towel for Heung Soo to wipe off the blood from this boy's busted brow. ("This much closer to the eye and you would have been blind, Nam Soon-ah," she huffily sighs, and then ruffles his hair. "I'll get you an ice-pack too.")
But when she is called in to Heung Soo's school to talk about another misbehavior, and Nam Soon is again sitting right next to her precious brother, all nonchalant smile and "noona~!". She feels angry. And just wants to tuck her brother away.
MY FEELS WHY IS THIS SHOW LIKE THIS WHY /dives head-first into feels circle
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But when she is called in to Heung Soo's school to talk about another misbehavior, and Nam Soon is again sitting right next to her precious brother, all nonchalant smile and "noona~!". She feels angry. And just wants to tuck her brother away.
baw, i choose to believe whenever stuff like that happened she's just be like. Heungsoo, you can't be like this forever, you know that right? and hope that for all their 'boys will be boys' bluster, that heungsoo will get that message and hammer it into namsoon, cos he's her little brother too.
Or maybe she'd be like injae. take one look at their twin looks of guilt and buy them ramyun. I have pre-story arc feels. It was a much happier time.
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That pot of gold's gotta run dry eventually. But assuming everything doesn't go tits up there. I think we'll get some indication of where Namsoon's character is settling into long term. (hopefully somewhere with Heungsoo still a prominent part of his life)
NOW I PICTURE NAMSOON LEARNING TO SAY GOODBYE BC GRADUATION AND
NOT OK????
I love that reply gif so hard. There were parts of that show that were like, shiwon, are you me?
TBH i stopped watching reply 1997 for a while bc i didn't like how much i found myself indentifying with the ~~crazy~~ stanning behavior and i felt ashamed in a sense of what her story arc was? idk.
lmfao he's like the hulk, his secret is that he's always angry.
this is so true and i agree with your entire paragraph--namsoon is held together by a few very interesting stitches, but he always resorts to anger. like who the fuck decided YEAH I'M GETTING BULLIED I'M AN EXPERT FIGHTER LET ME THROW A CHAIR OUT THE WINDOW?? i understand why youngwoon did it but why in the flashback did we see namsoon go for it??? that's insane. it's like namsoon has no limits, no boundaries. like, as you said, maniac excitability and phenomenol immaturity. he's wants to break things but i don't know if intellectually he ever realized how much he hurt people until post-heungsoo. outside of the window he looked like a scared, terrified child who'd been caught red-handed?? so divorced from the idea of consequence. yes yes tyes exactly. and that is why i'm scared by namoon--and it's why everyone in that room looks terrified of him. he's still entirely unfathomable and he's irrational about it. everyone in the room knows he's the jjang but they suck up to heungsoo. why???????
because namsoon is a ticking bomb and i genuinely think the only people who aren't terrified out of their minds are kangjoo and hekyung. hakyung, because she's seen him at his lowest, and kangjoo because kangjoo isn't scared of anything (or she is but refuses to admit it). but idk even they freaked out when namsoon shouted in 12/3 so ;;;;;
it's weird cos it almost feels like he's regressed a little cos more of that manic excitabilty seems to explode out of him, more easily in recent episodes. (compare ep.2 conflic resolution with ep 12) but even if it's still there he's clearly a lot more inclined to use his powers for good these days, so there's that. and he's a lot more tolerant of people's backchat and bullshit.
i think that's bc that's how he reacts to people, but in a sense that's better than the emotional vortex he was for the first few episodes? still never getting over the end of ep 4 dkjvhdkvzksbvs
FWB IS JUST UGRHKLSG i have so many feels about how grossly sexy yikyung is
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NO, NEVER GOODBYE, I REFUSE ANYTHING OTHER THAN SEE YOU LATER.
I'd see heungsoo wanting to go abroad(or just generally away) and as part of namsoon's growth arc, him actually letting him. But this time they stay in touch with skype and e-mails and this is the only way namsoon will ever be able to say everything. So in the skype conversations it'll just be wassup, glad to see your face but in the e-mails he'll start from the beginning and this time tell him literally everything and they'll never mention that in the their conversations.
I really don't want namsoon to grow out of his love I want him to mature into a newer phase of it. for him to be like: This time I'm ready to love you properly. and for them to have a decent shot at a happily ever after now that heungsoo's eyes are open to namsoon and namsoon's eyes are open to the world.
I'll make time to finish reply someday, there were bits that chimed and bits I recoiled at (i will never write a blood pact for oppa, i'm sorry but I won't). Overall I found shiwon to be a very likeable character and I really respected eunji's portrayal of her because she breathed like into the role? idk, but the acclaim is well deserved.
what's bad is, I doubt the chair namsoon was gonna throw would have gone out of the window (make of that what you will). Or that wasn't my first thought anyway. then again, maybe he didn't even know what he was gonna do with it.
Iol how little of these boys' shit hakyung has time for. jjang indeed. The girls rock. a+ for the lack of anything resembling a shrinking violet.
i think the class sees it like oh jongho called it, plus namsoon put a lot of time and effort into basically seeming subservient to heungsoo. And maybe he wasn't thinking about/didn't care about how it looked to the rest of the class, but nonetheless the message was well received. Namsoon will fuck you up, but make no mistake. Heungsoo is the one holding the keys to the castle.
lol, never getting over this drama full stop. officially my fave k-drama ever, short of a ridiculously appalling ending. If that happens, this is an ok place to end things wrt brotp.
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I don't know if this reply and especially "I really don't want namsoon to grow out of his love I want him to mature into a newer phase of it." means you'll keep on writing them but I sincerely hope you do. The characterization and insight you have really makes me see NS, HS and heungsoon with new eyes.
If it makes a difference, the way I saw their relationship was never that if it wasn't Namsoon it would have been some one else. Maybe it's just wishful thinking but it really feels like what they had couldn't have happened with anyone else.
ahhh... made myself down again, lol. These two just bring up so much feeling in me. For someone who hasn't been in fandom for years I really didn't expect a kdrama (b)romance to awaken this. :P
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. Just wanted you to know here's another fan awaiting their "happily ever after" if you feel up to it.
there's always AUs
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