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crobatman April 17 2014, 12:29:27 UTC
I can see what you meant about this being your least Favorite Cori fic. While I still dislike "How James Got His Mojo Back" more due to my enjoyment of the admitted flawed canon episode, I admit that this is the objectively worse one.

I wonder why Falls didn't do anything with Brock (that i'm aware of anyway). Everyone else seemed to have a place in Falls hatred, with Ash being the Devil, Tracey being a disgusting Glutton and Misty being their false friend. Brock is just kinda there in the fics.

Chikorita disobeying Ash really confuses me, because of all his Pokémon Chikorita strikes me as the one that would obey his in any command that wasn't about her staying behind due to her extreme crush. She's kind of a less desperate Harley Quinn. I can understand the rest as they do tend to have their own opinions, but Chikorita is devoted to Ash.Then again,this being Falls, I really should be unsurprised that a character is OOT.

Why in hells name is she using Wobbefett as a narrator? Wobbefett is way to spacey to care what is happening.

Have Tom and Jerry been in a fic at any point, or are they just Sporkers?

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guardians_song April 20 2014, 02:07:06 UTC
can see what you meant about this being your least Favorite Cori fic. While I still dislike "How James Got His Mojo Back" more due to my enjoyment of the admitted flawed canon episode, I admit that this is the objectively worse one.
I cannot think of anything more ridiculous than this one. D| (Which, admittedly, is just an invitation for the next one to be worse...)

I wonder why Falls didn't do anything with Brock (that i'm aware of anyway). Everyone else seemed to have a place in Falls hatred, with Ash being the Devil, Tracey being a disgusting Glutton and Misty being their false friend. Brock is just kinda there in the fics.
Probably because he didn't really hit on Jessie. If he had, she would have portrayed him as some sex-crazed pervert, I'm sure.
(And I think Misty mainly got bashed because Cori tried to turn her into a ~secret friend~ to the Rockets, then threw a shitfit when the actual canon character didn't magically follow the fanon. -_-;; Bleh.)

Why in hells name is she using Wobbefett as a narrator? Wobbefett is way to spacey to care what is happening.
Because she decided that noooo, Wobbuffett is secretly smart under it all and only pops out because he loves Team Rocket SO MUCH. Or something. *sigh* No explaining Cori-Logic...

Have Tom and Jerry been in a fic at any point, or are they just Sporkers?
Just Sporkers. I never wrote the fic for the 'verse they came from. :P *shrug*

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crobatman April 20 2014, 10:55:11 UTC
I cannot think of anything more ridiculous than this one. D| (Which, admittedly, is just an invitation for the next one to be worse...)
Furry Articuno on Ninetales sex.
Furry. Articuno. On. Ninetales. Sex.
I believe that is more ridiculous than anything that has ever been thought up by a mortal mind (or if there is worse, I'm going to need a great deal more brain bleach)

Probably because he didn't really hit on Jessie. If he had, she would have portrayed him as some sex-crazed pervert, I'm sure.
It's a shame she didn't. It's would be closer to his canon personality than anything she's ever wrote.

(And I think Misty mainly got bashed because Cori tried to turn her into a ~secret friend~ to the Rockets, then threw a shitfit when the actual canon character didn't magically follow the fanon. -_-;; Bleh.)
I still scratch my head on that one. Misty is many things, both positive and negative, but a person who befriends people who steal from her best friends/implied love interest and who occasionally try to steal her pets/battle partners?

I kind of wish she had managed to get to the DP series because of Dawn. One thing that Dawn did that none of the rest have is she and her Pokémon directly cheerleaded (I'm aware that isn't a word, but I couldn't think of a better way to express it) Ash in his battles (as he occasionally did for her). I can just image the reaction Falls would have had to a character not only helping Satan himself, but directly showing her support openly and in full view. She'd probably see it like someone publicly saying worshipping Hitler is a grand thing to do.

Because she decided that noooo, Wobbuffett is secretly smart under it all and only pops out because he loves Team Rocket SO MUCH. Or something. *sigh* No explaining Cori-Logic...
I actually can go with her idea of him loving TR SO MUCH OMG BEST TRAINERS EVAR!!! He's an eccentric Pokémon, and he does seem to like being a part of the group.I just don't get why she thinks he's smart. If you wanted a smart Team Rocket Pokémon, Falls, you could have used Arbok. Or this being Falls with her love or fanon, have TR catch an Alakazam or suchlike that "for some reason" (AKA "canon") They couldn't use against the Twerps. Wobbefett is one of the only Pokémon I can't accept being smart, because it's friggin' Wobbefett.

Just Sporkers. I never wrote the fic for the 'verse they came from. :P *shrug*
Shame. They're likable characters, and it'd be interesting to see how Older Cassidy (Cassidy isn't a spell checker recognized word?) and Butch would interact with Older Jessie, James and Meowth.

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guardians_song April 20 2014, 17:55:14 UTC
Furry Articuno on Ninetales sex.
Furry. Articuno. On. Ninetales. Sex.
I believe that is more ridiculous than anything that has ever been thought up by a mortal mind (or if there is worse, I'm going to need a great deal more brain bleach)
Fair enough. :P (As for more brain bleach... I think Weepingcock's had worse.)

I kind of wish she had managed to get to the DP series because of Dawn. One thing that Dawn did that none of the rest have is she and her Pokémon directly cheerleaded (I'm aware that isn't a word, but I couldn't think of a better way to express it) Ash in his battles (as he occasionally did for her). I can just image the reaction Falls would have had to a character not only helping Satan himself, but directly showing her support openly and in full view. She'd probably see it like someone publicly saying worshipping Hitler is a grand thing to do.
xD Oh dear gad, that would be glorious if only for her frothing at the mouth. She'd probably have them be Evil Stupid People together, and then every sporker could comment on how they were just as good a couple as Jessie and James... XD;;

I actually can go with her idea of him loving TR SO MUCH OMG BEST TRAINERS EVAR!!! He's an eccentric Pokémon, and he does seem to like being a part of the group.I just don't get why she thinks he's smart.
Sums it up well. I think she just didn't want to make him stupid because OMG STUPID PEOPLE SUCK (she is really elitist on that front) and she must have liked Wobbuffet, so Wobbuffet had to be buffed to yet another foul-mouthed snarker. ):|

If you wanted a smart Team Rocket Pokémon, Falls, you could have used Arbok. Or this being Falls with her love or fanon, have TR catch an Alakazam or suchlike that "for some reason" (AKA "canon") They couldn't use against the Twerps. Wobbefett is one of the only Pokémon I can't accept being smart, because it's friggin' Wobbefett.
Agreed. (Can't the Abra line only be used by psychics in anime-canon? It's been so long since I saw the Sabrina episodes that I've forgotten.) It's good she didn't, though, because then she'd just waste an Alakazam's "intelligence" on telling everyone how Jessie and James are the most perfect people ever and how stupid Ash is.

By this point, she'd switched to derailing canon episodes to being totally mis-portrayed by the Eviiiil And Stuuuupid Ash, as a lead-up to when she declared they were all in Ash's head, so it makes sense in context that she would deliberately botch the characterization. Heaven forbid TR have a stupid Pokemon, after all. :\

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crobatman April 20 2014, 22:38:54 UTC
Fair enough. :P (As for more brain bleach... I think Weepingcock's had worse.)
I have no idea who or what that is, and I have a distinct felling I don't want to know.

xD Oh dear gad, that would be glorious if only for her frothing at the mouth. She'd probably have them be Evil Stupid People together, and then every sporker could comment on how they were just as good a couple as Jessie and James... XD;;
Add to that the fact Dawn kept beating Jessie in contests and she would have been a force of anger to behold.Truly a missed opportunity.
If she had thought Dawn was a bad person for having small shipping moments with Ash, just imagine how she'd react to Serena. She's constantly trying to get into Ash's pants.
I'd love to see how she reacted to Iris. At the start of her seasons (Unova, obviously) she was really snarky to Ash at the start, telling him he's a kid and all that. Then she grew to be friends with him, with her criticisms becoming more affectionate. So I can so see Falls absolutely loving Iris at the start, then feeling completely betrayed and throwing the largest shitfest ever. Then again, being critical of Ash was also Misty's thing, and Falls hated her.
Wait.
Was that why she thought Misty would be secret friends with the trio? Because she criticized Ash?
Really?
Good God she had a black and white view of characters back in the day, didn't she. I do so hope the news about her being better adjusted now is true.
Actually, the Unova series as a whole would be interesting to see from Falls point of view as TR actually became competent. I'd like to see whether she was on board for the development or if she would have start whining about how their characters had been destroyed. And her other woobie came back as the big bad.

Sums it up well. I think she just didn't want to make him stupid because OMG STUPID PEOPLE SUCK (she is really elitist on that front) and she must have liked Wobbuffet, so Wobbuffet had to be buffed to yet another foul-mouthed snarker. ):|
I didn't even realize she was elitist. It all makes a scary amount of sense now. Now I wish the anime had given them a Slowpoke just so I could see how she could rationalize it.

Agreed. (Can't the Abra line only be used by psychics in anime-canon? It's been so long since I saw the Sabrina episodes that I've forgotten.)
I'm...genuinely unsure (checks Bulbapedia). As Alakazam has been owned by other trainers that aren't Psychics, it seems like they are just favored by those with the ability rather than it being a prerequisite for owning one. It actually turns out that Sabrina didn't actually have an Alakazam in the anime, just a Kadabra. The more you know I suppose.

It's good she didn't, though, because then she'd just waste an Alakazam's "intelligence" on telling everyone how Jessie and James are the most perfect people ever and how stupid Ash is.
Agreed. You just know that if she had a Pokémon that is a canon supergenuis, she put in really pretentious "intelligent" dialogue that didn't mesh at all with it's OMG TR ARE THE OTP OF THE UNIVERSE moments.

By this point, she'd switched to derailing canon episodes to being totally mis-portrayed by the Eviiiil And Stuuuupid Ash, as a lead-up to when she declared they were all in Ash's head, so it makes sense in context that she would deliberately botch the characterization. Heaven forbid TR have a stupid Pokemon, after all. :\
I think the key word in that sentence was "deliberately". Falls has always botched the characterizations ):<.

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guardians_song April 21 2014, 01:45:09 UTC
Weepingcock is an LJ community devoted to posting various awful sex scenes for the horror and entertainment of the readers. It's... um... memorable.

Add to that the fact Dawn kept beating Jessie in contests and she would have been a force of anger to behold.Truly a missed opportunity.
XD 'SHE MUST HAVE CHEATED! THE JUDGES WERE PREJUDICED! SOMEHOW! AND - *froths at mouth*'

If she had thought Dawn was a bad person for having small shipping moments with Ash, just imagine how she'd react to Serena. She's constantly trying to get into Ash's pants.
*groan* I can imagine. 'Clearly she's evil and stupid too! Eww, what if they BREED? NO! NO! NOT MORE KETCHUMS!'

I'd love to see how she reacted to Iris. At the start of her seasons (Unova, obviously) she was really snarky to Ash at the start, telling him he's a kid and all that. Then she grew to be friends with him, with her criticisms becoming more affectionate. So I can so see Falls absolutely loving Iris at the start, then feeling completely betrayed and throwing the largest shitfest ever. Then again, being critical of Ash was also Misty's thing, and Falls hated her.
She'd probably shift from regular WYDS to WRHs while screaming that the show writers didn't understand the character like she did. *facepalm*

Wait.
Was that why she thought Misty would be secret friends with the trio? Because she criticized Ash?
Really?
Good God she had a black and white view of characters back in the day, didn't she. I do so hope the news about her being better adjusted now is true.
I don't know if that's why, but it's possible. I have to spork more fics to see what her justification was. I do know that the fic where they befriended Gary was lost to the sands of time, but it was something that involved Pokemon poachers and the like. (It was technically a Shigeru1313 fic, not a Corific. Still - part of the timeline.)

Actually, the Unova series as a whole would be interesting to see from Falls point of view as TR actually became competent. I'd like to see whether she was on board for the development or if she would have start whining about how their characters had been destroyed. And her other woobie came back as the big bad.
*snerk* That would have been interesting... (Though, unfortunately, she could always take the 'THE SHOW'S WRONG, MY CANON IS BETTER' approach. Corifics are at their most interesting when she's attempting to duck and weave around the canon. When she threw that out the window, it turned into one big block of wangst, 'romance', and French toast. And Ash-bashing, of course. Can't forget the Ash-bashing. :\)

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crobatman April 21 2014, 08:36:46 UTC
Weepingcock is an LJ community devoted to posting various awful sex scenes for the horror and entertainment of the readers. It's... um... memorable.
Sound interesting...and majorly disturbing. I'll give it a look at some point

XD 'SHE MUST HAVE CHEATED! THE JUDGES WERE PREJUDICED! SOMEHOW! AND - *froths at mouth*'
Of course. Nobody can beat the great Jessie, most magnificent of a coordinators. All who think a mere girl could show up her Hairness without cheating are either drunk or stupid, like that Ketchum brat.

*groan* I can imagine. 'Clearly she's evil and stupid too! Eww, what if they BREED? NO! NO! NOT MORE KETCHUMS!'
I wonder if, had that fan theory about Giovanni being Ash's 'father been true, she had treated Ash better or Giovanni worse. I suppose it depends when she decided Giovanni was a woobie.

She'd probably shift from regular WYDS to WRHs while screaming that the show writers didn't understand the character like she did. *facepalm*
And all nuance in her character would be gone.

I don't know if that's why, but it's possible. I have to spork more fics to see what her justification was. I do know that the fic where they befriended Gary was lost to the sands of time, but it was something that involved Pokemon poachers and the like. (It was technically a Shigeru1313 fic, not a Corific. Still - part of the timeline.)
I've heard her fics were better written than than Falls own brand.

*snerk* That would have been interesting... (Though, unfortunately, she could always take the 'THE SHOW'S WRONG, MY CANON IS BETTER' approach. Corifics are at their most interesting when she's attempting to duck and weave around the canon.
They do have an entertaining desperation to them due to how much she has to twist everything in every episode to make her OTP work.

When she threw that out the window, it turned into one big block of wangst, 'romance', and French toast. And Ash-bashing, of course. Can't forget the Ash-bashing. :\)
I imagine the post-canon fics are going to be far harder to spork. What can you really talk about, apart from her food fetish.
Wangst, "Romance" and French toast would make a great name for her memoirs.
The unfortunately literal Ash-Bashing ): .

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