Freedom

[grrm]

Yesterday's post seems to have triggered a huge outpouring of comments, and I see the same issues being discussed all over the internet, in a hundred different places. Needless to say, there's a huge range of opinions, but some of the polls I've looked at suggest the majority of Americans are okay with these new TSA "security" measures because,

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[skull_bearer]

*applause*

1984

[mat33]

I thought, no one of notice in the first world would have the guts to speak out.

True liberty

[skull_bearer]

The basis of civilisation and its continued evolution has always lay in the need for people to give up certain liberties for the oportunity to live in a complex and diverse community. But who gets to decide what rules are good and what rules impinge too much on our innate desire to determine the course of our own lives? It was not terribly long ago when it was perfectly reasonable to kill someone who impugned your honour, how much more so if someone killed a family member (and I am not talking about the societies the Eurocentric types like to insultingly call savage or barbarian - you have heard of duels right?). But we came up with a better way of seeking justice and righting wrongs; we took away peoples right to fight duels and commit vengance murders (and it was a right in those societies). And those who wanted to continue to exercise those rights protested most vociferously and for a number of years went about continuing their dueling for many years. But now there are very few who would vote for the return of those rights

Re: True liberty

[skull_bearer]

Who will educate humanity?

Not George Bush, that's for sure.

[baine_darkwolf]

*seconded*

[aislinn]

If you were president of the united states, how would you do things differently? Right now. Today. What would you do differently about security at airports?
I'm not asking with an agenda. I'm just curious.

[cabbageboylsmsa]

That's really not a fair question, whether you're biased or not. Politicians spend years honing their campaigns; have dozens of advisors and lackeys to furnish them with statistics and evidence to back their claims; and (most importantly) aren't told to get back to their corner and write every three comments. ; )

[aislinn]

it's easy enough to say what's wrong with the system. It's easy enough to bitch and complain and wonder where our civil liberties have gone. I'm just wondering what a sane alternative would be to the madness. I'm tired of reading about how evil everything is and how great everything used to be. But I have yet to read anyone proposing anything different, that's all. And by everyone, I mean people on my friends list to politicians in the white house.

[autopope]

Well said!

I think the only point you missed out is, cui bono?

[kativy]

Preach it.