I like her, but I can't stop myself from thinking that she is too young to be Head of Medicine on an alien outpost. It keeps me from fully enjoying her character.
Yes to pretty much all of this. The main reason I can't quite enjoy Keller's char is because I don't get her - I don't understand how she got her job; moreover, I don't understand why she wants her job. Is she interested in proving herself, or saving people, or meeting hot guys, or what?
Give me the overly-confident, acerbic Rodney who went after Carter in SG-1, over this stumbling, awkward guy any day.
YES. Okay, he was totally obnoxious about it - but Rodney knew what he wanted and he wasn't afraid to admit it, and he genuinely wanted Sam (even if mainly on the sexual level) rather than "a relationship" - which is how he comes across, to me, with both Katie Brown and Keller - that he's not attracted to them so much as attracted to the idea of being in love and having a girlfriend, never really getting to know the person he's supposedly in love with...
...eheh will stop ranting now. Sorry, Greyias! But. Yes. This.
Is she interested in proving herself, or saving people, or meeting hot guys, or what?
Oh yes, exactly that. Even Sgt Dusty got to explain why she transfered to Pegasus.
What really galls me, is the numerous posts and semi-scientific poll 'conclusions' that point to it being our fault that SGA was discontinued, because we, the fans, hate Keller.
I don't hate Keller, I don't begrudge her her scenes and I would love to see her in a relationship with Ronon (and why these things always have to be dragged out for two seasons, lord knows. Who would wait that long, stuck on a small base). But you know writers - I for one, would love some background, some explanation as to why she's Head of Medicine, brain surgeon, plastic surgeon *and* genetic scientist at the tender age of 26. It helps me to understand and warm up to her character.
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ps Grey, I'd love to read that follow-up meta post. XD
What really galls me, is the numerous posts and semi-scientific poll 'conclusions' that point to it being our fault that SGA was discontinued, because we, the fans, hate Keller.
O RLY? XD Awesome that the first time the network executives decide to listen to "our opinion" they decide it's such a lost cause because people don't like one character. That someone would even suggest something is so... so... I'll stop myself before I possibly start wanking.
But my curiosity is piqued... which polls are these?
ps Grey, I'd love to read that follow-up meta post. XD
Okay... I'll see if I can salvage the tangential rants into some actual meta. Right now it's more rambly, and not exactly coherent.
But my curiosity is piqued... which polls are these?
I was overstating the numbers a little (*g*), but this one was posted in the newsletter. I found it biased (the 'like' option was *not* part of the poll), but the results were interpreted and posted anyway, and you know how it goes, once it is out there, people don't dismiss it out of hand. (Also, there's an anti-Shep thread? Seriously?? He's the lead character.)
Then, according to Jewel Staite herself, there is a "world of anti-Keller threads" out there and even Joe M. addressed the anti Keller feelings on his blog.
Of course a show doesn't go from a 2.0 rating to 0.9/1.3 without something causing that, so maybe the termination of Beckett and Weir had more impact than the network expected and Keller and Carter couldn't counter that. I'm just not sure if a new show aimed at an entirely different demographic is the way to go. If I were C&W I would have hung on to SGA for one more season to see how SGU will pan out, but maybe they don't have the budget to produce two shows (which is worrisome in itself).
Darn work filters, I'll have to read Jewel's bit later. That poll though... my only response to it and the conclusions drawn from those results is "... ... ..."
so maybe the termination of Beckett and Weir had more impact than the network expected and Keller and Carter couldn't counter that
I do think that killing off major characters is a turn off for audiences, and not just for die-hard fans who possibly over analyze it on their journals *g* I don't fan hard on every show I watch, but if they kill off my favorite character, or a character that I really like... it's doubtful I'll tune back in next year. Despite what producers may think, I personally don't watch television for shock value or realism.
The reasoning behind SGA's cancellation still baffles me, because it's natural to try and lead in a new show with something that will help boost it's audience. It could possibly be budgetary reasons, shows get really expensive year six plus... but who knows. There's some days I have a hard time not feeling like SGA is the red-headed step-child of the Stargate franchise.
Yes to pretty much all of this. The main reason I can't quite enjoy Keller's char is because I don't get her - I don't understand how she got her job; moreover, I don't understand why she wants her job. Is she interested in proving herself, or saving people, or meeting hot guys, or what?
Give me the overly-confident, acerbic Rodney who went after Carter in SG-1, over this stumbling, awkward guy any day.
YES. Okay, he was totally obnoxious about it - but Rodney knew what he wanted and he wasn't afraid to admit it, and he genuinely wanted Sam (even if mainly on the sexual level) rather than "a relationship" - which is how he comes across, to me, with both Katie Brown and Keller - that he's not attracted to them so much as attracted to the idea of being in love and having a girlfriend, never really getting to know the person he's supposedly in love with...
...eheh will stop ranting now. Sorry, Greyias! But. Yes. This.
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Oh yes, exactly that. Even Sgt Dusty got to explain why she transfered to Pegasus.
What really galls me, is the numerous posts and semi-scientific poll 'conclusions' that point to it being our fault that SGA was discontinued, because we, the fans, hate Keller.
I don't hate Keller, I don't begrudge her her scenes and I would love to see her in a relationship with Ronon (and why these things always have to be dragged out for two seasons, lord knows. Who would wait that long, stuck on a small base). But you know writers - I for one, would love some background, some explanation as to why she's Head of Medicine, brain surgeon, plastic surgeon *and* genetic scientist at the tender age of 26. It helps me to understand and warm up to her character.
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ps Grey, I'd love to read that follow-up meta post. XD
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O RLY? XD Awesome that the first time the network executives decide to listen to "our opinion" they decide it's such a lost cause because people don't like one character. That someone would even suggest something is so... so... I'll stop myself before I possibly start wanking.
But my curiosity is piqued... which polls are these?
ps Grey, I'd love to read that follow-up meta post. XD
Okay... I'll see if I can salvage the tangential rants into some actual meta. Right now it's more rambly, and not exactly coherent.
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I was overstating the numbers a little (*g*), but this one was posted in the newsletter. I found it biased (the 'like' option was *not* part of the poll), but the results were interpreted and posted anyway, and you know how it goes, once it is out there, people don't dismiss it out of hand. (Also, there's an anti-Shep thread? Seriously?? He's the lead character.)
Then, according to Jewel Staite herself, there is a "world of anti-Keller threads" out there and even Joe M. addressed the anti Keller feelings on his blog.
Of course a show doesn't go from a 2.0 rating to 0.9/1.3 without something causing that, so maybe the termination of Beckett and Weir had more impact than the network expected and Keller and Carter couldn't counter that. I'm just not sure if a new show aimed at an entirely different demographic is the way to go. If I were C&W I would have hung on to SGA for one more season to see how SGU will pan out, but maybe they don't have the budget to produce two shows (which is worrisome in itself).
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so maybe the termination of Beckett and Weir had more impact than the network expected and Keller and Carter couldn't counter that
I do think that killing off major characters is a turn off for audiences, and not just for die-hard fans who possibly over analyze it on their journals *g* I don't fan hard on every show I watch, but if they kill off my favorite character, or a character that I really like... it's doubtful I'll tune back in next year. Despite what producers may think, I personally don't watch television for shock value or realism.
The reasoning behind SGA's cancellation still baffles me, because it's natural to try and lead in a new show with something that will help boost it's audience. It could possibly be budgetary reasons, shows get really expensive year six plus... but who knows. There's some days I have a hard time not feeling like SGA is the red-headed step-child of the Stargate franchise.
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