Courage or Slut?

Sep 10, 2004 16:30

Okay, I realize a few of you aren't going to like the subject, but after my last update, I figure I need something to grab your attention. I'm a tad bit confused as to why girls sometimes start conversations with me when I'm at the bar playing pool or whatever.

So I was a tad bit drunk.
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Re: Watch out dear here it comes!!! gravito September 10 2004, 21:15:25 UTC
Also, I guess I didn't think of your point that I should expect that from women in a bar. I mean, I don't go to the gym or anywhere else where people sometimes talk socially. The closest thing is the landromat and I can be as secluded as I like there. But when I go out to the bars it is to hang out with people I already know, not to make new friends.

I find it easier to talk to guys at the bar because I don't have to wonder whether or not they are going to hit on me or if they are going to brag about me to all their friends. I should know better than to expect a girl at the bar to be talking to me for any other reason.

I used to go to the library, but now I can afford the books that I want to read and plus I have some library fines I don't care to pay. I met a girl there once, but she was into romance novels and nothing I was. Still, every so often that I pine for a woman there follows a period where I realize I simply do not need one. I'm happy where I am.

An older female friend of mine told me though that I would be stealing from the world if I didn't date someone. She still thinks some "lucky girl" is going to find me. Not only do I disagree, but I will most likely not be able to live up to the girl's expectations. Such is the case with every relationship I've seen so far. At some point, the guy isn't changing the way he should be.

That's why they say, "Women marry expecting a man to change and he never does. Men marry expecting the woman to stay the same and she never does." I think there's an element of truth to that, though I don't think it's any particular reason why a man and woman should be afraid of making vows.

I went so far as to tell Mac-10 that I will never get married because I want the woman to always live in fear of me leaving her. That was a bit extreme though, and I didn't properly relay the point I was trying to get across. The stance I had was not that she should leave in fear, it's that she should be secure enough in her life that she doesn't need me, yet desires me anyway. And in return, I can assure her that I will be exactly the same.

I guess I want an independant gal more than anything else. And at the same time, because I don't need one, I don't care to actively seek one out. So I'm alone, but very content. Being alone is where I thrive, and after posts like the one above, I expect most would agree that that's where I'm going to stay most of my life. :)

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Re: Watch out dear here it comes!!! queen_phoenix September 13 2004, 15:57:42 UTC
I really have to agree with most of this posting...Most women do try to change men...I look for one that is the one I want but I have heard women...I will change that, I will "train" him...That is what kills me! I trained him that way..I truthfully have never understood women myself...If you haven't figured it out I have no female friends...they are all males and we get along great...Don't actively seek out..It is when you are least looking she will come your way but don't close down completely or you will miss out when she comes your way..

I can also understand your point on never getting married because of you wanting her to think that you will leave at anytime...I really have to agree with you on that point too.

Your older female friend is right someone will be a lucky girl and you will find the right one one day...Not the romance novel type no...Those type are frilly froo froo girls who believe in a world that is not real...Things are not that way and it is usually those women who try to do the "training" of their men.

She'll come your way...just make sure and be receptive and for gosh sakes do not look in bars...Unless you want a one-nighter...I have a sister like that and she is completely happy like that...Don't understand it and it makes me sick...

Did I ever tell you after looking at my post you need to use more ellipses? :)

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gravito September 15 2004, 07:04:41 UTC
lol. No. I do *not* need to use more ellipses. I know people that do though, and it doesn't bother me. It defines who it is that is typing. A lot of times I can tell who is trying to hide from me based on the way they type. Whereas when I imiate someone, I do a great job of it.

I don't look for women in bars. Not generally, anyway. I'll meet them there though.

I don't mind someone attempting to change me. But if they say, "change or I'll leave you" I'll say, "leave me". Doesn't matter how long she's been with me and how much she thinks I love her, if she's asking me to quit something that I did before I met her and she never said anything about it, then she's crazy.

I would not make vows with someone whose life I wasn't happy with when I made them.

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queen_phoenix September 15 2004, 07:30:09 UTC
Good healthy outlook...You will do well when you find the right one...I have hope for you!

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gravito October 1 2004, 16:11:02 UTC
edit: "made" should be "met"

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