From Tony, whom I love.
Tony told me about this exchange, and then he posted it on Facebook, and I have stolen it. I do not know either participant in the conversation. I don't think Tony does either. But I do like it.
Below is a fascinating exchange that happened between my friend Bethany, a devout Mormon and supporter of proposition 8, and my friend Marcy, a feminist and advocate for equal rights.
Both have given me their permission to publish their comments.
BETHANY: In supporting Prop 8, we are not telling others that they are wrong for being homosexual. Nor are we telling people who are homosexual that they need to stop being homosexual. We simply believe that marriage so important to society, that we must stand up for what we believe.
MARCY: And we, as a society, never told blacks to stop being black- we just sent them to the back of the bus or to separate schools and denied them the right to vote but they could work in our houses, look after our babies and play us their music. We never told women to stop being women- we just refused to give them lines of credit unless a man signed, told them to stay home because they weren't smart enough and locked them up in institutions when they talked too much but expected them to give birth, raise good children and have dinner on the table every night. We never told the Jews to stop being Jews- we just made sure they couldn't stay in our hotels, our neighborhoods and turned a blind eye to the Holocaust but used them as our doctors, scientists and accountants. And we don't want the homosexuals to stop being homosexual, we just want them to live quietly, not show affection for one another and stay away from children but they can continue to make our movies and tv shows, style our hair, plan our weddings, design our clothes and be the punchline in jokes.
Yeah- marriage is important. Prop 8 isn't about the right to get married. The California Supreme Court ruled that gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marriage, remember? They got the right. Prop 8 is about "Eliminating the right of same-sex couples to marry."
ELIMINATING THE RIGHT.
Anyway, I cannot understand how marriage between two men or two women could negatively affect my own marriage.
No one seems to be able to explain it to me either.
Below is a fascinating exchange that happened between my friend Bethany, a devout Mormon and supporter of proposition 8, and my friend Marcy, a feminist and advocate for equal rights.
Both have given me their permission to publish their comments.
BETHANY: In supporting Prop 8, we are not telling others that they are wrong for being homosexual. Nor are we telling people who are homosexual that they need to stop being homosexual. We simply believe that marriage so important to society, that we must stand up for what we believe.
MARCY: And we, as a society, never told blacks to stop being black- we just sent them to the back of the bus or to separate schools and denied them the right to vote but they could work in our houses, look after our babies and play us their music. We never told women to stop being women- we just refused to give them lines of credit unless a man signed, told them to stay home because they weren't smart enough and locked them up in institutions when they talked too much but expected them to give birth, raise good children and have dinner on the table every night. We never told the Jews to stop being Jews- we just made sure they couldn't stay in our hotels, our neighborhoods and turned a blind eye to the Holocaust but used them as our doctors, scientists and accountants. And we don't want the homosexuals to stop being homosexual, we just want them to live quietly, not show affection for one another and stay away from children but they can continue to make our movies and tv shows, style our hair, plan our weddings, design our clothes and be the punchline in jokes.
Yeah- marriage is important. Prop 8 isn't about the right to get married. The California Supreme Court ruled that gays and lesbians have a constitutional right to marriage, remember? They got the right. Prop 8 is about "Eliminating the right of same-sex couples to marry."
ELIMINATING THE RIGHT.
Anyway, I cannot understand how marriage between two men or two women could negatively affect my own marriage.
No one seems to be able to explain it to me either.