[unfic] in place of thought, questions

[glossing]

Some random questions that have been sloshing around in my brainpan lately:
1. Does the proliferation of fandom-specific newsletters mean there's less need for fic-communities? (I'm thinking of comms as fic-posting platforms here, rather than niche outlets for 'ship cliques and the like.)

2. If an ensemble has a canon queer character - or a couple

Comments

[oneangrykate]

1. It's certainly a bit easier than watching several different communities for a single fandom. One stop shopping!

2. *stuffs fist in mouth*

3. I don't know the answer, but I have sticky buns?

[glossing]

1. It *is* a lot easier, isn't it?

2. But I wanna knooooooooooooow, damn it.

3. *grabby hands!*

this is *too* tim/kon icon!

[oneangrykate]

1. *fistpump*

2. Okay, it's like this - if the desire not to slash the other characters is because you love the canon couple so much, that's one thing. But if it's because the canon couple has "ruined" other options because you are either just that unimaginative or just that dedicated to using queer characters on your own terms, then. Well.

3. They're super-yummy.

I am reading the first issue of Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, and I am loving the art.

Re: this is *too* tim/kon icon!

[glossing]

1. Cheerleader uniform? *hopes*

2. Yep. I'm still wrapping my head around the latter and failing miserably.

3. *envies*

YAY! The art's wonderful; it reminds me of Ariel Schrag, if she did color, heteronrmative mainstream comics, that is. :)

[glossing]

1. *nods* That's a good corrective - less, but not no. (My inner grammarian is freaking at not no. Hee.) The question would be difficult to answer empirically, since there are so many variables, but it's something I've noticed in my own posting behavior - if a newsletter has picked up a fic, I'm less likely to post it to communities.

2. Good point - I'm fond of *some* canon pairings, but I'm usually looking elsewhere. I've been wondering if a canon queer couple sucks up the (perception of) slash potential, but QAF is a great counter-example to that.

[musesfool]

This is the original post on the Cold Prickly-Warm Fuzzy thing: "Anyone who had a heart..." by julad.

So what is a Sticky Hot?

[glossing]

EXcellent, thank you!

Sticky Hot is based on my (mis)perception of Warm Fuzzy, admittedly, so if WF taps the gooey heart of romanticism, SH opens up a freeway to the id. I'm basing this solely on the difference kinds of feedback I've gotten lately - I posted a truly libidinal pornlet the same week I posted a CP, highly crafted story, and the responses are strikingly different. And, of course, it's all about me.

[cathexys]

sticky hot? interesting!

The thing with metabib is that it really sucks to look for a specific post (even for me), b/c I never remember (and noone else can guess, of course) where I'd put a given post.

This one was tucked away with the characterization, b/c it was an answer of sorts to these two: mmmchelle - Characterization Meta, Again (5-05-05) and mmmchelle - Part the 123rd (5-09-05)

[glossing]

I really love metabib! I checked under genre and writing and couldn't find it - of course, I was doing a find function with "fuzz", so that was probably why.

Thanks so much for the additional links!

(Sticky hot. Totally. I just need to figure out how to divorce the discussion a bit from my own fb experiences. *g*)

30 seconds or less...

[rubynye]

1) I suspect so and hope not (I *like* fic communities)
2) Generally speaking there seems to be. For me, no.
3) Sticky and HOT! (Have you read the canon I'm quoting? It made me love Devin Grayson.)

4) *glomp*

Re: 30 seconds or less...

[glossing]

1. I've loved fic comms in the past, but haven't really found one in DCU that makes me all excited. Hmm.
2. I would expect nothing less of you. <3
3. OF COURSE! Oh, Dick.
4. *mwah*

[executrix]

1. Maybe it's just me, but I think of the newsletter as being mostly a links list to the various comms--an indexing tool for comms, as it were.

2. That depends very strongly on the writers' attitude toward canon, because you gain people who sign up for the same-sex canon ships who wouldn't write about X/Y before because "that's not canon." However, you then lose people (I, I admit, am one of them) who think of canon ships as kinda boring.

It also has a lot to do with attitudes toward OCs. One way to say, "Gee, my show doesn't do very well with CoC" would, of course, to write interesting OCoC, but that's not going to be an option for writers who say "I'm in this fandom because I'm interested in the central characters." And another use for OCs is "Gee, I think Character L needs a boyfriend/girlfriend, but nobody in canon really works."

[glossing]

1. The newletter as a step up the scale of abstraction makes sense to me. Must think more.

2. you then lose people (I, I admit, am one of them) who think of canon ships as kinda boring. Right, but say that Zoe/Wash was a queer couple (Zack/Wash?) - you might not write them, because canon ship = boring for you, but would it, as a queer ship, prevent (inhibit?) you from slashing Mal and Simon or another set of guys?

I hadn't thought of OCs here, but you make a lot of sense. Plus, I like saying OCoC aloud. *g*

[executrix]

1. I can easily imagine someone who is not a strict OTP'er but who does like some ships a lot more than others. (All pairing names guaranteed made up). Let's say zir favorite ship is Julie/Maureen, and she really, really hates Andrea. Ze wouldn't join an Everything Andrea! comm, but she might write a story by one of her favorite writers if she sees it in the newsletter (especially if the summary is "Andrea is Eaten By Bears." Ze probably wouldn't spend a lot of time on a Maureen Gen comm, and once again the newsletter could be a tool for leading her to a "Maureen; maybe pre-Julie/Maureen if you squint" story that she wouldn't see otherwise

[lunabee34]

1. Maybe it's just me, but I think of the newsletter as being mostly a links list to the various comms--an indexing tool for comms, as it were.

I second that. Most people that compile these newsletters look in comms, not individual journals because that would take too long and be maddening. I belong to several fic comms so that I can post fic there, but none of those comms appear on my friends list--instead I look at the SPN newsletter.