Fanon to Canon 'ugly naked guy'?

[galeandrandy]

Writing something for Credence, this thought occurred to me. As I'm sure most anyone knows, there are quite a few things that were said or stated in QAF fandom / showtime message boards by fans that inadvertently made it onto the show in one way or another

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[xheartrockx]

If I recall correctly, Justin also refers to it in season one when he gives Daphne "the tour". He says something like: "Wait til you see the picture of the naked guy."

[galeandrandy]

Ah yes, he does! I'd forgotten that. I will have to watch because I'm wondering if fandom made the remark that referred to it as 'the ugly' naked guy painting first, but that might not have been so much as fanon fact to canon fact as it was just blatant truthful observation.

Glad you understood what I was asking for about this stuff as I guess i may not have explained it well enough.

*goes to watch that scene*

[xheartrockx]

Glad I could be of help. I didn't know that some of these things kind of came from fandom as I've only been in the fandom for little more than a year now.

I only remember this scene so well because right then, they have Brian and the stratigically positioned plant make an appearance ;) And because I always keep thinking: "I can't imagine Brian going to a gallery picking out that painting." Ha, maybe it was one of Lindsay's early works, now that I'm thinking of it...

[galeandrandy]

Ha, maybe it was one of Lindsay's early works *dies laughing*

CPR--- Okay so that has to be one of the funniest things ever because if that had once been fanon whoops I mean canon, Lindsay would be a VERY famous artiste as that painting had to be worth something if Brian was selling it and was recouping a good sum of money to pay off some of the 'suddenly acquired bills within a week's time' at 'that time of the month'. Come now, that painting may be of an ugly guy, but it isn't THAT bad! Think for a moment about that horrible Sam Auerbach thing Lindsay did. NOW THAT is not only an UGLY naked guy but an UGLY painting I am convinced they had a juvenile artist do all of 'Lindsay's work' whom was paid with the nubs of pencils and used paint tubes that 'Justin's artist' had thrown away

[xheartrockx]

I can't comment on if any of these painting are good or not. I know shit about art and I'm one of these people who "don't know art but know what they like". It still seems odd to me that while the rest of Brian's interior design is very sleek, modern and practical, he'd go to a gallery and come home with a 10' painting. He just doesn't seem like the guy for decoration.

Anyways... the lack of continuity doesn't bother me so much, actually. Besides, I'm not sure if someone who is ambidextrous could actually paint (artistically) with the both hands to equal mesaures. I'm left handed and there are a few things I can only do with my right, so...
But that's not what I was going to say. What bothered me even more is the timing on the show. For the life of me, I can never figure out how much time passes within or between episodes. Sometimes it's days, sometimes it's one day and sometimes it's weeks. Like the whole of season 4 seems to span Mel's pregnancy while ep 511 seems to go over at least a couple of days.

[galeandrandy]

Art is definitely in the eye of the beholder, the I do think that there is a fine line of where something can begin to be called art and when it is just plain ridiculous. But just my opinion

[xheartrockx]

But, just think if you had like 30 different people writing 83 episodes of a show, and many who came and went and for the most part, many who had never seen but a few episodes or the episode before the one they were writing for. Sort of puts all those inconsistencies in perspective.

That's true. I mean I've made the same experience when writing my own fic and that's only 8000 words and not a whole show. And probably, had I watched it week by week on TV rather than during a week marathon, I wouldn't have noticed a lot of these things. Given the amount of writers, some things are bound to slip but yeah... there are a few things that should have been noticed. I think my biggest pet peeve is when they don't properly end storylines. Like the Pink Posse thing... This whole thing was a bit ridiculous to begin with but they make this humongous deal out of it and then it just disappears. Sometimes it would have taken only one line of dialogue to end things properly.

Just FYI

[mysid]

The painting is actually by Attila Richard Lukacs. He was primarily painting male nudes at the time, but a quick peek at his site shows that he seems to be into abstracts right now.

They used the real painting to shoot the pilot, and then, fearing that it was too risky to leave it on the set where it could easily be damaged (or stolen), they replaced it with a copy.

Re: Just FYI

[galeandrandy]

Yes, which is why I said it wasn't THAT ugly, just the subject and technically I actually don't think the painting is ugly at all, I actually find it very disarming which is more beautiful than most of the work I see hailed from other artists.

Re: Just FYI

[sisamyska]

Speaking about paintings - do you guys know the name of the artist that did Justin´s paintings? I was searching and never find out. I really love them.

[laurapop2008]

I didn't think the house was meant to actually be in West Virginia...I always took it to be Justin exaggerating, not actually meaning that they were in WV but that it felt like they had been driving so long that they might has well have been. Am I being stupid? Is it actually meant to be in West Virginia?

[galeandrandy]

The world may never know and as far as a house in the country goes, it might be 'logically' in terms of the 'trees and land ect' that it is in WV. Which can technically be driven to if you're on the furthest point of Pittsburgh in a little over a half an hour.

That being said, that like many things in QAF are all up to interpretation of the viewer.

[laurapop2008]

Ah I see...I'm not really great on US geography so I wouldn't know how far you'd have to drive out of a particular city to get to all the green and leafy bits :) I think I'll stick with my theory though, as I like Justin being sarcastic :D

[penny_sieve]

I agree, I thought it was Justin being sarcastic as well.

[galeandrandy]

I think there's a 50/50 chance either way it's great. I once read a one-shot where the author constantly had Brian saying something like...

"Wild, Wonderful, West Virginia... hmpf! As if I'd ever buy a house in the land of hunters and breeders." Because he couldn't get over the fact that Justin didn't realize they crossed back into Pennsylvania after driving a while because he was trying to confuse him.

I'd never read that explanation and liked that one a lot.

[galeandrandy]

Well I like Justin being sarcastic too, so I go back and forth when thinking about it or writing about it because I can't leave known logistics alone sometimes but other times I can. Plus, more often than not I prefer to think of Brian and Justin having a home together far from people who disturb them mid-spanking or... mid... well, anything with just the two of them really. LOL!