Fanon to Canon 'ugly naked guy'?

Feb 26, 2012 05:32

Writing something for Credence, this thought occurred to me. As I'm sure most anyone knows, there are quite a few things that were said or stated in QAF fandom / showtime message boards by fans that inadvertently made it onto the show in one way or another ( Read more... )

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galeandrandy February 26 2012, 14:15:51 UTC
Ha, maybe it was one of Lindsay's early works *dies laughing*

CPR--- Okay so that has to be one of the funniest things ever because if that had once been fanon whoops I mean canon, Lindsay would be a VERY famous artiste as that painting had to be worth something if Brian was selling it and was recouping a good sum of money to pay off some of the 'suddenly acquired bills within a week's time' at 'that time of the month'. Come now, that painting may be of an ugly guy, but it isn't THAT bad! Think for a moment about that horrible Sam Auerbach thing Lindsay did. NOW THAT is not only an UGLY naked guy but an UGLY painting I am convinced they had a juvenile artist do all of 'Lindsay's work' whom was paid with the nubs of pencils and used paint tubes that 'Justin's artist' had thrown away.

Wow, *looks up* that cam out meaner than I intended and likely it is all probably the same artist, only if it is, he used his non-dominant hand to do Lindsay's work.

That being said, I just LOOOOVe how COWPIE forgot about the whole, 'ambidextrous' remark in 101. I suppose like many things, (WV) 'it's only a half an hour outside of Pittsburgh' we're too overlook their inaccuracies and love the show anyway.

*rolls in my love for it*

I know at one time (though it seems less and less people answer my 'remember when' posts at getithere) there were people who talked about many of these fanon to canon facts and I recall once someone did a a five drabble series (chosing one fanon to canon fact of each season). I can not link because I didn't even read many short fics back then so I probably quickly read it and forgot about it. It makes me sad.

I'm a little manic right now because I'm not only losing to a computer playing yahtzee wild dice on the WII but I'm also trying my best to think of other examples besides these few but cannot.

Thanks again!

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xheartrockx February 26 2012, 14:39:48 UTC
I can't comment on if any of these painting are good or not. I know shit about art and I'm one of these people who "don't know art but know what they like". It still seems odd to me that while the rest of Brian's interior design is very sleek, modern and practical, he'd go to a gallery and come home with a 10' painting. He just doesn't seem like the guy for decoration.

Anyways... the lack of continuity doesn't bother me so much, actually. Besides, I'm not sure if someone who is ambidextrous could actually paint (artistically) with the both hands to equal mesaures. I'm left handed and there are a few things I can only do with my right, so...
But that's not what I was going to say. What bothered me even more is the timing on the show. For the life of me, I can never figure out how much time passes within or between episodes. Sometimes it's days, sometimes it's one day and sometimes it's weeks. Like the whole of season 4 seems to span Mel's pregnancy while ep 511 seems to go over at least a couple of days.

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galeandrandy February 26 2012, 15:06:52 UTC
Art is definitely in the eye of the beholder, the I do think that there is a fine line of where something can begin to be called art and when it is just plain ridiculous. But just my opinion.

I actually found the painting very suiting to Brian's taste. He's always one to make a statement and almost all the paintings he has in his offices too are quite large and bold. Just because it was a large painting, it did not take up much space, it had it's own place, as every thing in its home seemed to.

I also find that the subject matter was perhaps something so different from what Brian might've found beautiful in men (though I personally thing the subject in the painting is cuter than some of his tricks), or conversely, what he might've seen looking at the painting was beauty stripped to the core. Maybe it was a message, that no matter how many beautiful men paraded into his home, he'd still be stuck with one damn ugly one. LOL!

Mostly for me, the lack of continuity begins and ends with the timeline issues, no matter how long you dissect it, there will always be the more minor inconstant statements, parts of the set, clothing choices, calendars or a million other things that will contradict any timeline directly stated or one that anyone will try to make up. Believe me, I've tried to come up with a more reasonable one since the show first started messing up when it aired and I've yet to settle on one. It will never happen. Even the actors at different times had stated the timeline wrong in reference to a certain scene or series of events because they too had no idea what it was the writers had done.

But, just think if you had like 30 different people writing 83 episodes of a show, and many who came and went and for the most part, many who had never seen but a few episodes or the episode before the one they were writing for. Sort of puts all those inconsistencies in perspective.

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xheartrockx February 26 2012, 15:19:20 UTC
But, just think if you had like 30 different people writing 83 episodes of a show, and many who came and went and for the most part, many who had never seen but a few episodes or the episode before the one they were writing for. Sort of puts all those inconsistencies in perspective.

That's true. I mean I've made the same experience when writing my own fic and that's only 8000 words and not a whole show. And probably, had I watched it week by week on TV rather than during a week marathon, I wouldn't have noticed a lot of these things. Given the amount of writers, some things are bound to slip but yeah... there are a few things that should have been noticed. I think my biggest pet peeve is when they don't properly end storylines. Like the Pink Posse thing... This whole thing was a bit ridiculous to begin with but they make this humongous deal out of it and then it just disappears. Sometimes it would have taken only one line of dialogue to end things properly.

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Just FYI mysid February 26 2012, 14:45:23 UTC
The painting is actually by Attila Richard Lukacs. He was primarily painting male nudes at the time, but a quick peek at his site shows that he seems to be into abstracts right now.

They used the real painting to shoot the pilot, and then, fearing that it was too risky to leave it on the set where it could easily be damaged (or stolen), they replaced it with a copy.

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Re: Just FYI galeandrandy February 26 2012, 14:55:18 UTC
Yes, which is why I said it wasn't THAT ugly, just the subject and technically I actually don't think the painting is ugly at all, I actually find it very disarming which is more beautiful than most of the work I see hailed from other artists.

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Re: Just FYI sisamyska February 28 2012, 19:10:14 UTC
Speaking about paintings - do you guys know the name of the artist that did Justin´s paintings? I was searching and never find out. I really love them.

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laurapop2008 February 26 2012, 15:21:27 UTC
I didn't think the house was meant to actually be in West Virginia...I always took it to be Justin exaggerating, not actually meaning that they were in WV but that it felt like they had been driving so long that they might has well have been. Am I being stupid? Is it actually meant to be in West Virginia?

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galeandrandy February 26 2012, 15:25:19 UTC
The world may never know and as far as a house in the country goes, it might be 'logically' in terms of the 'trees and land ect' that it is in WV. Which can technically be driven to if you're on the furthest point of Pittsburgh in a little over a half an hour.

That being said, that like many things in QAF are all up to interpretation of the viewer.

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laurapop2008 February 26 2012, 15:31:42 UTC
Ah I see...I'm not really great on US geography so I wouldn't know how far you'd have to drive out of a particular city to get to all the green and leafy bits :) I think I'll stick with my theory though, as I like Justin being sarcastic :D

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penny_sieve February 26 2012, 15:38:53 UTC
I agree, I thought it was Justin being sarcastic as well.

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galeandrandy February 26 2012, 16:35:42 UTC
I think there's a 50/50 chance either way it's great. I once read a one-shot where the author constantly had Brian saying something like...

"Wild, Wonderful, West Virginia... hmpf! As if I'd ever buy a house in the land of hunters and breeders." Because he couldn't get over the fact that Justin didn't realize they crossed back into Pennsylvania after driving a while because he was trying to confuse him.

I'd never read that explanation and liked that one a lot.

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galeandrandy February 26 2012, 16:31:18 UTC
Well I like Justin being sarcastic too, so I go back and forth when thinking about it or writing about it because I can't leave known logistics alone sometimes but other times I can. Plus, more often than not I prefer to think of Brian and Justin having a home together far from people who disturb them mid-spanking or... mid... well, anything with just the two of them really. LOL!

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gaedhal February 26 2012, 22:03:06 UTC
West Virginia's panhandle comes fairly close to Pittsburgh. Look at a map.

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galeandrandy February 27 2012, 10:33:27 UTC
Yes, which is why I even 'use' real addresses for where characters live and figure out appropriate driving time to and from places in and around Pittsburgh or whatever. It's super easy to do with google maps and anyone in any country I believe does have access to us map systems of this sort.

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gaedhal February 28 2012, 02:28:49 UTC
CowLip was fairly clueless in locating the "mansion" in West Virginia when
in reality the places wealthy people would live would be Fox Chapel,
Sewickley Heights, Upper St. Clair, the I79 Corridor -- all in Pa. But then
CowLip don't seem to know that the river running through the Pitts is
the Allegheny and not the "shit from the Susquehanna."

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