Every day sexism isn't funny. Never was, never will be.

[gelbes_gilatier]

Sometimes I wonder why I even tell people that their sexist bullshit is sexist bullshit when their intellectual capacity to understand sexism goes as far as "Some women don't benefit from the tits bonus." (sic. "Tits bonus". I ain't kidding you.).

To explain this further: today, a (censored) sent an e-mail asking us to donate money for a gift for

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[littlesammy]

Da hab ich auch nen netten zu: Am Montag wurde unser firmen-internes EM-Tippspiel eröffnet, bei dem man nicht nur mitspielen kann, sondern auch Teams bilden kann. Die Kollegen aus Aachen haben sich überlegt, es wäre doch eine nette Idee, ein Team für uns als Warenwirtschaftler zu gründen. Genannt haben sie es (halt Dich fest) "WWS-Muschis".

Grade, als wir kollektiv umgekippt sind aufgrund dieses unsäglichen Schenkelklopfer-Karnevalshumores und uns noch fragten, was denn der eine Kerl im Aachener Team wohl dazu sagt, kriegen wir eine Email von ihm: "Der Name ist Weltklasse!"

Wir haben uns dann mal freundlichst davon distanziert... =_=

Echt, ey. Und da denke ich, in Schalke haste alles an üblem Gossenhumor schon gesehen...

[gelbes_gilatier]

Genannt haben sie es (halt Dich fest) "WWS-Muschis".

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Das is ja genauso schlimm wie das Ding mit dem "FC Siewillja"... (hab die Mädchenmannschaft verlinkt, weil ich nicht auf den unsäglich doofen SPON-Artikel verlinken wollte)

Und dann wollen die mir erzählen, das sei ja alles nicht schlimm und wir sollen uns ja nicht so haben, hier wird doch niemand diskriminiert oder unterdrückt (und dann sagte er "Profitiert ja auch nicht jede Frau vom Tittenbonus." Ich weiß nicht, was er da noch erzählt hat, denn mein Auge fiel auf "Tittenbonus" und dann hatte er die Diskussion leider auch schon verloren. Das ist wie Godwin's Law bei mir jetzt.). Gott, ich kann gar nicht beschreiben, wie sehr mich dieser beschissene Alltagssexismus (und die Alltagshomophobie, der Alltagsrassismus...) aufregt.

[littlesammy]

Ich krieg grad große Kulleraugen. Ich weiß nicht so ganz, was schlimmer ist - wenn sich Weiber selber herabwürdigen oder wenn es Kerlen nicht klar ist, was sie da für einen Dreck von sich geben... =_=

[gelbes_gilatier]

Irgendwie finde ich die Weiber fast noch schlimmer. Internalisierte Misogynie und so. Andererseits bin ich dann ja auch frauenfeindlich... nein. Nein, ich bin unsinnisfeindlich. Ja. Also. Die sind alle gleich schlimm, am Ende.

Und bei jedem zitierten Kommentar wollte ich so reinschlagen...

[mackenziesmomma]

Uh...I feel the need to admit this and hope you can forgive me for it someday

[gelbes_gilatier]

There were *so* many things wrong with that shirt but it was SO fun to see our big burly male coach wearing it at games.

See... there's nothing wrong with the shirt (except the kitsch but that's a different thing and not the point here). But there's a lot of things wrong with finding it funny on a guy because that's exactly my point. Why is it funny on a guy? Because it's embarrassing for him, isn't it? And why is it embarrassing? Because it makes him look like a girl, right? So... point in case... why is something that makes you look like a girl embarrassing?

I don't have problem with men in pink nor girls in blue.

You know I really like that about you ;) But. You don't like it when your kid wears pink, do you? That makes the color into more than it just is

[mackenziesmomma]

Why is it funny on a guy? Because it's embarrassing for him, isn't it? And why is it embarrassing? Because it makes him look like a girl, right?

In our case it was funny not because it made him look like a girl so much as it was such a divergence from his "usual" look. He was one of those guys who took soccer WAY too seriously (since these were FIVE YEAR OLDS) and it was fun to make him "take it down a notch" by making him wear the shirt. In fact he said at the end of the season that the shirt reminded him that it was "about the fun" not "the game".

I had way more issues with the kitsch than the girlyness of it but it was REALLY hard to find a shirt that remotely fit our team name/mascot/thingybobber. (They were the "Diva Ponies" and don't get me started on how twitchy it made me. I didn't mind the "Ponies" part but that because they were *girls* they had to be "Divas" oooh boy.)

But. You don't like it when your kid wears pink, do you?I don't like it no, but because I've never really been comfortable with the color. To me Pink is

[inkvoices]

Yeah, I had a bit of a rant fairly recently because I was at a fancy meal at uni, surrounding by guys, and the conversation turned to films and The Avengers and went like this

[gelbes_gilatier]

At which point a guy sat opposite decides to try and finish my sentence with, "Masculine."

Wut? That's an... interesting assumption. Interessting being synomym to "What the fuck was he thinking?" here. Err, anyway, what did you do? Did you answer that?

just letting people be people

That's my favorite part of feminism. The whole people being people thing. I have a feeling, though, that it's the hardest part for people not immersed in the debate, scientificly or politicly. Over and over again I get told that "women are like that" and "men are like that" and "black people are like that" and "gay people are like that" and I keep wanting to shout "No, they're not! They're people and if some of them are like your stereotypes it's because of an incredibly complicated mix of society constructs and personality. It doesn't make your stereotypes true." It's incredibly frustrating at times :S

The audience wasn't laughing at the shirt colour and those guys had nothing to be embarrased about, except perhaps the swooning fangirls.Arrr! Maybe

[inkvoices]

I gave him a glare of death, but I didn't really know what else to do, because a fancy dinner thing isn't really the place for a rant, you know? But I feel kind of bad about that. It's that, what's it called, the spirit of the staircase? The moment afterwards when you know what you should have said, but the chance to say it is long gone. I mean, Joss Whedon supports equality now and writes strong female characters and Neil Gaiman is all for equality, and what the hell has what I watch or read got to do with gender anyway? *head desk*

Yeah, it really is frustrating. People are like people, all people are people, end of. We're not like anything or anyone else. Drives me up the wall when it's family that say things as well. Now they do get words from me, heh.

Please and thank you.

[failegaidin]

I've started to become the uncomfortable feminist friend in my circles. When I was younger, I used to hate feminists, because I misunderstood it and it's terribly misrepresented in the media. I thought that because I agreed with a woman's choice to be a stay at home mom and other conservative views that I couldn't be a feminist.

Boy was I was wrong.

Now I'm the one who watches a movie and goes "Wait. He broke into her home, ripped the shower curtain off while she was taking a shower, looked her up and down suggestively, handcuffed her to the bar, and then made a suggestive remark and left her there, naked. How is that funny?" I don't care that they had an unresolved sexual tension thing. I don't care that they'd already slept together. I don't care. That's violating. And people just stare at me and tell me I'm taking it too seriously.