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May 05, 2009 11:13

Okay Republicans, let me get this straight: If a woman wants the right to sue over getting lesser pay for the same work, but doesn't find out about it until more than six months after she started getting an unequal paycheck for the first time, then she wants to file a "frivolous lawsuit." But when a Republican candidate for Senator sues over losing ( Read more... )

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talldean May 6 2009, 02:56:32 UTC
In the first case, they're not the woman getting screwed, and in the second case, they're not the Democratic majority getting screwed.

Republicans, much like Objectivists, aren't really worried about what's fair for other folks.

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vanessasquest May 6 2009, 10:16:42 UTC
>.> That's not quite the case. Please DO think that some of us actually do care. <3<3<3 I mean, our political party WAS founded on abolition... you know, where we wanted to guarantee civil rights of others... =_= until Conservatives absorbed most of our party and started to make things go horribly wrong... but us Small Business Republicans are actually fiscally responsible, stand-up kinds of guys!

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freeptop May 6 2009, 14:14:11 UTC
Of course, back then, the Democratic Party was the one in favor of segregation and slavery. Those aren't the cases with the parties today. History only matters if the organizations continue to uphold the standards they originally set.

In the 1960s, when Lyndon Johnson decided to support the Civil Rights Act, the ideologies shifted... and so did quite a lot of party affiliations. (For example, pro-segregationist Strom Thurmond was a Democrat back then, but he died a Republican... and it wasn't because he changed his views all that much).

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vanessasquest May 6 2009, 16:07:14 UTC
As I said, though, this is basically because who came into our party and corrupted it, but when other ideals stay true (by this I mean localized government versus centralized... etc.) it doesn't mean to be Republican we have to support ALL of the beliefs the party has. ^_^ ie we recognize racist bastards where they stand, and some of us very wise Republicans are pro-choice, pro-science (*cough*Stem-Cell-Research*cough*), pro-family-- and by THAT I mean believe in same-sex marriage so they can adopt some damn kids! XD ...And, yeah... other schtuff. <3 ( ... )

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freeptop May 6 2009, 19:06:25 UTC
The problem I have with the Republican Party is that they preach the good stuff only long enough to get elected, and never long enough to actually attempt to _do_ any of it ( ... )

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vanessasquest May 7 2009, 15:20:54 UTC
...Again, I know the conservatives are doing some of those things about trying to push us to the edges... however the goals of republican party (ie key beliefs) have many of the same things still there. We believe high military budget because the government is only necessary to supply certain infrastructure... and I already bitched about the same-sex rights and conservatives, so I'm not about to be redundant. ^_^ As much as people painted McCain as Bush the III, the truth is he was also a Moderate Republican as far as more social issues go, ie pro-choice (hence why he had to even use Palin as a running mate to get some of the conservatives back on board)... yeah, so... blargh, we have moderates still here, but conservatives get all the attention unfortunately because people like to just group: Those horrible republicans ( ... )

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freeptop May 8 2009, 15:11:02 UTC
The conservatives are getting the attention, because they're the ones taking over the party. In case you haven't noticed, the moderates are getting voted out of office. This action is causing others to flee the Party, since the focus of the Party platform has been shifting more and more away from moderates, and more and more towards the ultra-conservatives.

For example, Specter changed parties because polls showed that he was going to lose the Republican Primary badly. Analysis shows that a great deal of Specter's support among the Republicans changed parties last year to vote for Obama in the Primaries. That's the easiest example for me to give, because it's both recent, and in my home state, but it's certainly not an isolated instance.

I do know about moderate Republicans. I can, and do, respect them. But they aren't the ones in charge of the Party anymore. That's the point I've been trying to make ( ... )

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freeptop May 6 2009, 19:27:18 UTC
Moving on to your point about the Amendments, I have two counter-points ( ... )

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vanessasquest May 7 2009, 15:39:33 UTC
XD I said "Bill of Rights" for the 10 amendments, namely because we have an amendment in the amendments condemning alcohol then another (two down) that says prohibition is unconstitutional. XD I went to public school, but I know that much, thanks ( ... )

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freeptop May 8 2009, 15:29:24 UTC
Technically, Amendment 21 doesn't say that Amendment 18 is Unconstitutional, it outright repealed Amendment 18. It's a change, not a clarification ( ... )

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vanessasquest May 9 2009, 13:01:37 UTC
That's true (the last point and the O'Reilly point) ugh I can't stand that man... fair and balanced my ass. >.> I'm still in support of Newt's plan (can't spell names for shit so I'm not gonna try). Bush is an idiot, I've never denied that. I was a bit angry that McCain didn't stick to his guns during the election and just stay with Newt's plan though. Capping pays, I dunno how good of an idea that is, but Obama did some bending of rules toward unions favors instead of the federally assured holders. And just as everything that happened during Bush's term is BUSH's legacy, same with Obama. He undid several things Bush strove for so far, so what the hell is stopping him from the bail-outs? *Shrugs* That's neither here nor there. I dunno, it just kind of miffs me, despite some of the things him undoing are good as far as proceeding forward it also feels a bit petty that he's undoing some of the other things as if just to say "F-U" to Conservatives. *Shrugs* I think that makes more of a drift between the two parties ( ... )

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