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May 05, 2009 11:13

Okay Republicans, let me get this straight: If a woman wants the right to sue over getting lesser pay for the same work, but doesn't find out about it until more than six months after she started getting an unequal paycheck for the first time, then she wants to file a "frivolous lawsuit." But when a Republican candidate for Senator sues over losing ( Read more... )

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freeptop May 6 2009, 19:06:25 UTC
The problem I have with the Republican Party is that they preach the good stuff only long enough to get elected, and never long enough to actually attempt to _do_ any of it.

Of course, it seems they only want decentralized government when it comes to charging taxes or helping the poor. When it comes to things like, say, gay rights, it's the Republican Party that is pounding the table and beating their chests to prevent the Federal Government from recognizing same-sex marriages, or allowing gays to openly serve in the military.

Speaking of the military, I always wonder how the anti-tax people propose to pay for the military if they get rid of taxes. Especially considering the military takes up the majority of the fiscal budget... and it isn't even close. (Don't get me wrong - I'm in favor of a strong military. I just happen to think we need reasonable ways to pay for it).

Frankly, the Republican Party is currently pushing out the moderates from the Party. See: Arlen Spector. He was a moderate Republican. Now he's a moderate Democrat. He hasn't changed his views on anything, but the GOP has left him behind. That's what I mean by the change in the Party. You're claiming they haven't abandoned their ideals. I'm making the claim that they have. Small government isn't the main focus of the GOP anymore. Social Conservatism is.

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vanessasquest May 7 2009, 15:20:54 UTC
...Again, I know the conservatives are doing some of those things about trying to push us to the edges... however the goals of republican party (ie key beliefs) have many of the same things still there. We believe high military budget because the government is only necessary to supply certain infrastructure... and I already bitched about the same-sex rights and conservatives, so I'm not about to be redundant. ^_^ As much as people painted McCain as Bush the III, the truth is he was also a Moderate Republican as far as more social issues go, ie pro-choice (hence why he had to even use Palin as a running mate to get some of the conservatives back on board)... yeah, so... blargh, we have moderates still here, but conservatives get all the attention unfortunately because people like to just group: Those horrible republicans...

Also, as far as Gays in the Military... >.> Yeah, I think they updated the don't ask don't tell to Simon, which is still bullshit, anyone who wants to serve in the country should be entitled to so long as they aren't planning to use said training for a windy day on the grassy knoll. All you're really proving to me is how little you know about how many moderate Republicans view our own party and how much you hate Conservatives. XD (Join the party... no, really... we'd have so much in common... minus some of your taxation stances. XD)

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freeptop May 8 2009, 15:11:02 UTC
The conservatives are getting the attention, because they're the ones taking over the party. In case you haven't noticed, the moderates are getting voted out of office. This action is causing others to flee the Party, since the focus of the Party platform has been shifting more and more away from moderates, and more and more towards the ultra-conservatives.

For example, Specter changed parties because polls showed that he was going to lose the Republican Primary badly. Analysis shows that a great deal of Specter's support among the Republicans changed parties last year to vote for Obama in the Primaries. That's the easiest example for me to give, because it's both recent, and in my home state, but it's certainly not an isolated instance.

I do know about moderate Republicans. I can, and do, respect them. But they aren't the ones in charge of the Party anymore. That's the point I've been trying to make.

As for me joining the Republican Party - sorry, but I do believe the Government can do a lot of good, and should do so. I may by in favor of Capitalism, but I'm not a small-government person. I may not agree with everything the Party wants to do, but I agree with them a whole lot more than the Republican Party. I'm very, very liberal, after all. I'd be registered with the Green Party if were less pragmatic :P

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