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flister

It's my own cheating heart that makes me cry

Feb 05, 2010 09:51

Right, so.

I might have spent a bit of time thinking about this and, like, I know peoples are making entries on their own journals but I just sort of need get all this down in one place…

There are spoliers here for Emily's episode, btw, so avoid if you've yet to watch <3

( I can't adjust to this disgust )

emily, wtfery, skins, naomi

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shan_3414 February 5 2010, 10:06:21 UTC

I really don't know what to do with this episode. There are lots of things I loved about it. From a vidder's point of view, it was beautifully filmed, and Lily and Kat did a bang-up job. Plus, like, everything you said. Also, it actually provoked ~emotion, so well done show, for getting me attached again - just to throw me off a cliff ( ... )

flister February 5 2010, 10:14:06 UTC

LOL, well that could be sorted fairly quickly! It's actually a load of money that stalkerish Sophia left to Naomi (for no particular reason) which Naomi then uses to buy Emily a fuckton of Haagen Dazs (apparently it fixes everything) and a couple of tickets to Mexico.

I've always been a Naomi supporter, even when she was being a twat, I just thought that she had a bad way of dealing with stuff. And, yeah, I can see Naomi fucking up but it's just... it's almost like they're abusing Emily, you know? Because fucking everyone is shit to her. Even Freddie has been a cock to her TWICE in the last two episodes.

And yeah, totally - so the theme is 'If you cheat then I'll cheat!!' Good work Skins. I could have come up with that one.

Can Naomi not be this horrible liar that she is for me right now though, please? I want her back :(

shan_3414 February 5 2010, 10:21:53 UTC

lolllll. It must just be the rest of the dirty money Sophia's been saving for her, since Naomi's obviously running a drug ring now!

I like Naomi being a bit of a twat. But I don't like her being a lying cheat. I felt like last series was about her coming to terms with her feelings for Emily, so for her to just turn around and cheat on her SO SOON AFTER seems false to me. I think she struggles to keep people at arm's length - which is why she was so back and forth on being with Ems in the first place - but once she DID make that decision I didn't think she'd be so wishy-washy. :( And I'm not sure how they can fix things, with Emily having been abused so much (which is why I REALLY hoped she was going to be the one to cock-up somehow this series).

Just, FUCK YOU FOREVER, show, for making me ship them and then doing that.

flister February 5 2010, 10:45:21 UTC

Yeah, I'm just sort of glad that I've ended up shipping Katie/Naomi as well!

I love twattish Naomi, but I don't love this Naomi so much. Like... bah. I just don't get it. AT ALL.

I thought that Naomi would at least own up to her mistakes. Even the fact she had to lie to go to the Open Day doesn't bode well...

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skater113 February 5 2010, 10:07:27 UTC

PHew ( ... )

flister February 5 2010, 10:17:22 UTC

Emily can rule the hell out of me any day! ;) I'm sure that makes sense (I've had maybe 2 1/2 hours sleep...).

Yeah, that's the thing. Emily asked her... But once that lie has gone on for too long and you're basically in the clear, and making up for things by buying your girlfriend goggles for her moped, then it's going to be so much harder to tell the truth. But... it just doesn't feel like Naomi. But then I don't know much about her journey of late and I don't know if I even will get to :(

Oh, Merv was slagging off Naomily fans on twitter and Ollie joined in. So flipping flip the both of them.

immortality February 5 2010, 10:19:29 UTC

It's like ... I don't know. I can sort of see Naomi's reasons for doing this, but what they gave us just WASN'T ENOUGH. There was no reason for Naomi to cheat, given what we've seen of her. If they'd shown that she was feeling trapped or whatever, then maybe I could sit back and say like, Yeah, okay, that makes a bit more sense. But it just doesn't. I guess what Emily said was true. You love someone and then something happens and you're not sure if you ever knew who they were ( ... )

flister February 5 2010, 10:27:00 UTC

Yeah... it's sort of for all of them, isn't it? But thinking about that whole thing is just TOO CLOSE TO HOME and that's where my brain short circuits and...

Cheating runs throughout Skins, definitely. The problem here was that we knew at the time that they were cheating - we saw it all, then, and this time we didn't. If we'd got to ep8 last year and it'd been 'Ha! Panda slept with Cook!' we'd have (not cared a huge amount, but) thought 'Oh, right... what?'. And so here, we've been left out of the story. We're all Emily today because, really, none of us saw it coming.

Let Naomi explain herself and I might feel a bit better. I'm not expecting that to happen now though.

shan_3414 February 5 2010, 10:33:12 UTC

This. All of this. In the gen1 relationships, the cheating seemed to make more sense, somehow - more of a product of circumstance, a result of what was happening on the show instead of a reason FOR things to happen on the show, if that makes sense ( ... )

flister February 5 2010, 10:38:33 UTC

Yeah - I mean, would Naomi have really been in the mood after that? I just don't get her character AT ALL in this episode.

I can't believe I'm about to say this but... it just seemed like having a sex scene for the sake of it. Good snog, though. I do approve of that.

Naomi should have guilt all over the place right now. Emily'll probably end up fucking comforting her and telling Naomi it's not her fault...

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mazzygreen17 February 5 2010, 10:30:02 UTC

I watched the ep on an internet stream before heading into work. Suffice to say that I felt really depressed all day. I can't remember any tv show making me feel so emotional about the characters. It probably doesn't help that I've read waaaaay too many fics over the past few months...so when things don't go to "plan" now that my girls are back on the screen, it upsets me. That said, the writers have really done a great job in creating drama, sadness, regret, guilt, angst and love in one short, 60 minute episode. I mean, it's not like season 4 Naomily was ever just going to be snogging, hand-holding and cozy post-sex bed scenes. While it would make wonderful viewing for us in Naomily fandom, it probably wouldn't appeal to a wider audience and keep 'em coming back for more ( ... )

flister February 5 2010, 10:35:10 UTC

Yeah, I never expected it to go smoothly. I just never expected Naomi to be that big of a liar.

And, to be honest, how often on TV have you seen a lesbian couple enjoying a nice, post-coital bed scene? It doesn't happen often so I would have liked Skins to push the boat out and keep giving us stuff like that. Maybe not that exactly, but something like that. Meh.

Too many fics?! Surely no such thing!!! ;)

I'm looking forward to Katie's episode, definitely. I'm not sure how much I care about the rest... IDK, come on, Skins! Sort it out, yeah?

thecon12 February 5 2010, 10:48:52 UTC

After my initial shock passed I decided I liked the episode, not Naomi's cheating and like you there is no way to justify it but I feel like at the end of s3 Naomi knew she loved Emily but still didn't know what to do with that or how to show it and I think this is a continuation of that ( ... )

flister February 5 2010, 11:00:17 UTC

That's the thing - until that bloody roof I liked the episode too! Like, the end taints how Naomi's been throughout, you know? But I was still excited up til the last advert break.

They are only 18... yeah, I know. People can be morons at all ages ;) But I can't excuse this based on their ages. Naomi knew what she was getting herself into and she reacted in a horrible way. She needs to face the consequences, seriously, and I do honestly hope they show her figuring herself out a bit.

And, sorry babes, but IDGAF if they felt a connection or what age they are - Naomi and Emily were in a relationship and Naomi took Sophia back to her house, you know? That's not spur of the moment, that's 'I've been thinking about this since the train'. Do you get what I mean? There was enough time there for her to stop it. And that's one of the things that bugs me - it didn't just happen, you know? If, maybe, they hadn't held hands on the train and Naomi was like 'She's nice, let's go and have some tea' and then something happened then I might be a bit ( ... )