I really don't like deadlines....

May 26, 2010 03:02

I really don't do well with deadlines. I've known this quite a long while but I think I might just be starting to realise that that means I ought to plan around them rather than attempting to make my brain work with them.

And mostly related to that, I'm very nearly finished with my multi-fandom rec set for help-haiti, so if I'm awesome and not horribly ( Read more... )

kink, about recs (but not actually reccing), sometimes i pretend to be a responsible, kink-bingo, posting for posting's sake, fests, rant

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fish_echo May 26 2010, 04:59:26 UTC
There's a nontrivial difference between finding kinks humiliating and having a humiliation kink... And humiliation as a kink is one of those where I have to say 'your kink is not my kink' because whilst I know intellectually that it can be done in a loving, trusting, respecting relationship, all too often in fic I as the reader end up not feeling that and only feel the humiliation/shame (which is not something I find sexy at all).

AFAI recollect, I've run into one fic which had a humiliation kink which I found hot (because it was so very obviously about the trust and control and power dynamics and there was so obviously mutual respect and trust there that I hardly even noticed that humiliation was a component to it). And I've run into one other fic where the characters were clearly in the happy place as far as the humiliation goes, but it only sometimes worked for me (which in this case I'm fairly certain says much more about how it's a hotbutton for me than it says about the fic itself). I consider those fics both very kink-positive.

What I'm ranting against in my entry is the stories which may or may not have humiliation as a kink in the story at all but that leave a faint aftertaste of 'holier than thou' and 'kink is shameful'. I almost wish I had bookmarked at least a subset of those fics, because explaining the how/why of subtle authorial tone is the sort of thing best done with the text in front of one. *sighs* I wish there was a label for 'the author has a kink for getting off on the putting down of kinky practices/people' because that would simplify matters all around.

Um, sorry if that was an intentionally cheeky comment on your part-- I couldn't read tone-of-voice over the 'net and this is one of those things which hits my hot buttons (c.f. previous post about how the only thing I require for a healthy relationship is mutual respect and beyond that I'm not at all picky as to how it's implemented) so I just kind of vented some more here.

Who was it that said, 'I love deadlines, I love the sound they make as they fly past'?

I actually need very careful deadlines-which-aren't-deadlines or something. I don't even know... my head doesn't make sense all the time. Oh, heh-- if I had a facebook, I could be in an 'It's complicated' with deadlines! :P

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moragmacpherson May 26 2010, 05:14:29 UTC
Douglas Adams, and I believe it's still Towel Day in your time zone, so a timely quote as well.

Comment was half-cheek, half-curiosity as your original post read somewhat ambiguous on the matter, but you've cleared it up now. I find the idea of judgmental kink-authors fascinating, and I wonder how many of the anon-kink authors fall in that category. Self-loathing is hard to take; then again, I just watched the entire first season of Dexter in a day, so I've got some odd ideas going off in that direction at the moment.

But I might understand it in this case: one of the reasons I've never written porn is because I get too embarrassed to even type the words out; if I was writing about something that I found distinctly un-sexy, it might feel less personal, and thus easier to put on the page and send out into the world. That sentence was a hell of a run-on and it might not make sense, but I can't think of any other way to put it.

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fish_echo May 26 2010, 05:59:50 UTC
First, have I mentioned how much I love that icon yet? It's from the 'words, words' bit, isn't it?

I see it less as self-loathing (which it may or may not be) and much more as disrespectful and insulting (which are incredibly intense words from my point of view).

I am actually slightly puzzled by the entire phenomenon of anon kink memes-- I mean, yeah, I sort of understand what/why they are there, but, but! Remember, my first two big fandoms were HP and SGA where, as far as I could tell, kink and PWP and crack were welcomed just as much as everything else (although SGA will always be the crackfic fandom of my heart. I swear, that fandom breaks the crack scale into little bitty peices. I need to drag you into it so that you can laugh *with* me instead of *at* me when I start chuckling at ice cubes or girl scout cookies or peas or ketchup or tulips or elementary particles!). My guess is that there's going to be some fail in the kink memes and some awesome in the kink memes (or rather, I know there is both because I've seen both), I just don't have a good internal log of if there's a different ratio between kink meme fic and non-meme fic... I suppose this is what I get for reading multifannishly and only occasionally wandering through a kink meme. FWIW, most of the ones I was reading recently *weren't* on from kink memes and they were multi-fannish.

No worries about the run-on, I think I've parsed it (and indeed wouldn't have noticed it as such had you not pointed it out). That sounds like a reasonable possibility but then again, what do I know? (I haven't written anything more than kissing yet because I just don't feel that I'm a competent enough writer yet.). And I do think it is totally possible for people to write well about kinks which they don't have, so long as they respect what it is that they are writing about. And if you want to give it a try sometime, you could always give a look through the kink-bingo kinks (or any other kink list, but the KB is nice because there's going to be a really neat set of resource posts that'll be going live soon) and pick one which lies in that indifferent place between sexy and squick and see if you can write that.

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moragmacpherson May 27 2010, 02:21:32 UTC
It is from "Words, words, words," while this one is from when he taunts Rosencrantz (or is it Guildenstern) about trying to play him like a pipe - and by the way, thank you again for bringing that into my life.

So many fandoms, so little time. I'm going to start translating my (shorter) fics into French this summer in an effort to make my fan-ish efforts more productive in my non-fandom life. (My tendency towards epic lengths is going to sabotage me here, but I'm not comfortable mutilating other peoples' words - as long as they're just mine, it's all good).

Kink bingo - hmmm... well, I am starting to put together bits of "Trousers of Time," which is going to be a collection of vignettes of (a) possible future(s) of A Grand Sneer in which Sam and Dean wind up settling permanently on the Discworld - and which will include my first slash pairing, if the characters themselves don't object (my other major hang up when it comes to writing porn - I keep getting these mental flashes of my characters giving me that look and then shutting the curtains while coughing, 'a little privacy, please?' (and always the British pronunciation of privacy too, with the short 'i' - what's up with that?). While I'm expanding my horizons... well, it's a thought. I shall ponder.

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