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venefica_aura October 23 2007, 13:27:24 UTC
A-fucking-men.

On pretty much everything. Which is why my touchy feely math class is freaking me out so much (and you can guess where I am right now).

My work keeps nudging me about grad school (Informatics... which is neither a science or an engineering). I'm feeling a bit nervous about that.

But word, basically.

~Cendri

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first_seventhe October 23 2007, 13:33:14 UTC
I just think universities are getting completely out of hand. With tenure and all, there's absolutely NO accountability on the part of the professor for, you know, actually TEACHING. The prof is so swept up in his life changing research that he/she doesn't really care about teaching.

And with more and more people going to graduate school, this is a Very Bad Thing IMO.

We need professors who want to TEACH and not just do research, for crying out loud. Is that so hard?

P.S. Pay attention in class. ;)

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venefica_aura October 23 2007, 15:33:43 UTC
And considering what I see with a lot of University research, most of that is not life changing.

(Best thing ever: Michael Griffin, who is the current head of NASA came to talk at my Real College and some guy asked a question just to complain that his research got its funding cut. Griffin shut him down hardcore and politely)

~Cendri

P.S. Actually, I commented just BEFORE class, as I was just sitting there and had woken up early enough to go to office hour. Now I am done with class. I paid attention because we are getting into the shit I don't understand.

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first_seventhe October 23 2007, 15:39:13 UTC
I don't understand why people think academic research is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than industrial research. Sure, you can say that industry is just in it to turn a profit, and that academia is in it "for the love of learning/for the love of science". But you know what? That's bullshit ( ... )

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venefica_aura October 23 2007, 15:43:09 UTC
Well, they should be hot buttons. Considering what we majored in, we see lots of epic fail.

Funny you should mention grants. That's what a lot of the "side projects" that my company does is funded by. The game I'm working on actually beat out several academic groups for the grant because we had an actual business plan. Not only that, we have a couple products that we work on to keep us from going bankrupt.

So yeah, I see where you're coming from. XD

~Cendri

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first_seventhe October 23 2007, 15:53:05 UTC
This is why I like talking/ranting to you. Fellow engineers unite (and try not to blow up the world). :D

I just feel like the entire world of academia is totally changing, because colleges/universities are becoming a BUSINESS (not that they weren't always so, but it's much more significant now) and because everybody and their mom nowadays needs a college degree to "get a good job". And yet universities are holding onto all of this "lofty science" rhetoric to make themselves look better than industry when in all honesty they are just as bad. They're their OWN industry.

And I hate that research has become the #1 center of any college (in technical fields, sciences and engineerings, anyway). COLLEGE IS ABOUT LEARNING, YOU MOTHERFUCKERS.

I'm glad you guys are taking grants away; it seems like you have your heads on straight, anyway.

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venefica_aura October 23 2007, 16:12:14 UTC
because colleges/universities are becoming a BUSINESSFunny you should mention that ( ... )

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first_seventhe October 23 2007, 17:13:46 UTC
I think the main problem with the "college not being about learning" thing is that the reasons people go to college have shifted.

Yes. YES. Exactly. So you've got the old professors who were basically like I never want to work a day in my life, I want to stay at university versus a bunch of young folks who want to go out into industry, sometimes even with a PhD (SHOCK! GASP ( ... )

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