From the moment of Ten crashing back into that Naismith house and until the end it was just mostly a huge never-ending (or so it seemed) roll of "wtf? bzuh? wtf? er, wtf? god, please no. bzuh?"
Yeah, more or less.
Rassilon? uh, are you sure about that, RTD?
Yeah, I'm still too far back in Classic Who to get the implications of that, but ubi was saying she thought Rowena was the president at the time the Time War was locked.
Martha suddenly married to Mickey?
I've heard one possible reason is the guy who played Tom may not have been available, but there was still no need to marry them, imo. I hope we get some actual story on that at some point.
woman in white? my best guess is Susan, but...)
I've heard some theories that that was the Doctor's mother. Again, still too behind on the classic eps to have any real opinion, but then why that theme? It was the music from when Rose went all Bad Wolf and from the Big Epic Goodbye at the end of S2.
the whole Jack/Alonso thing - OK, I get RTD has a hard-on for Russell Tovey, but that really seems to have been the one and only reason for that
Yeah, apparently RTD wanted him for Eleven, or so at least one rumor goes. Going to rewatch Voyage of the Damned tonight to see if I can make any sense of where in Alonso's timeline that is supposed to be. Because if it's pre-VotD? That's just cruel beyond belief, even worse than having it be only Earth-months since CoE. Though rm had some interesting things to say about it (point #7) that cast the whole thing in a slightly less WTF mode. Potentially. We'll see. There'd better be more to that, rather like the Martha/Mickey, otherwise, yeah, it really is very much like the DH epilogue.
One thing I've seen complaints about is how it suddenly took Ten aaaaaaaaaages until the regeneration kicked in properly, but that bit I didn't mind - at least there's precedent for that in old!Who.
I didn't mind either, as I've only ever seen the 9/10 regeneration and figured there might be precedent. Good to hear there is.
The problem with the woman being his mother is that pretty much everything in DW canon, at least from Two onwards, so far has pretty much implied the Doctor's mother is long dead (and in the 1996 film, that his mother was human). Not that there's ever been a lot of talk about his parents.
I gather it was said during the commentary, but if it so, then... well, makes even less sense.
As for Rassilon - well, my wtf was less about that it wasn't Romana, but more that it was Rassilon. As Rassilon, the founder of the whole Time Lord society, was long dead (as in dead and buried) by Five's time. So ... a bit of explanation would have been nice, there, like if they'd suddenly resurrected Rassilon or something.
And yeah, Mickey & Martha... there better be a good explanation for that (onscreen - and I doubt there will be), because otherwise it really did seem like RTD was going through every "important" character he created and making sure they're either paired up or "All was well" about them.
I'm looking forward to S5 now, anyway. Am quite thoroughly done with anything RTD this after this. ;-)
Yeah, more or less.
Rassilon? uh, are you sure about that, RTD?
Yeah, I'm still too far back in Classic Who to get the implications of that, but ubi was saying she thought Rowena was the president at the time the Time War was locked.
Martha suddenly married to Mickey?
I've heard one possible reason is the guy who played Tom may not have been available, but there was still no need to marry them, imo. I hope we get some actual story on that at some point.
woman in white? my best guess is Susan, but...)
I've heard some theories that that was the Doctor's mother. Again, still too behind on the classic eps to have any real opinion, but then why that theme? It was the music from when Rose went all Bad Wolf and from the Big Epic Goodbye at the end of S2.
the whole Jack/Alonso thing - OK, I get RTD has a hard-on for Russell Tovey, but that really seems to have been the one and only reason for that
Yeah, apparently RTD wanted him for Eleven, or so at least one rumor goes. Going to rewatch Voyage of the Damned tonight to see if I can make any sense of where in Alonso's timeline that is supposed to be. Because if it's pre-VotD? That's just cruel beyond belief, even worse than having it be only Earth-months since CoE. Though rm had some interesting things to say about it (point #7) that cast the whole thing in a slightly less WTF mode. Potentially. We'll see. There'd better be more to that, rather like the Martha/Mickey, otherwise, yeah, it really is very much like the DH epilogue.
One thing I've seen complaints about is how it suddenly took Ten aaaaaaaaaages until the regeneration kicked in properly, but that bit I didn't mind - at least there's precedent for that in old!Who.
I didn't mind either, as I've only ever seen the 9/10 regeneration and figured there might be precedent. Good to hear there is.
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I gather it was said during the commentary, but if it so, then... well, makes even less sense.
As for Rassilon - well, my wtf was less about that it wasn't Romana, but more that it was Rassilon. As Rassilon, the founder of the whole Time Lord society, was long dead (as in dead and buried) by Five's time. So ... a bit of explanation would have been nice, there, like if they'd suddenly resurrected Rassilon or something.
And yeah, Mickey & Martha... there better be a good explanation for that (onscreen - and I doubt there will be), because otherwise it really did seem like RTD was going through every "important" character he created and making sure they're either paired up or "All was well" about them.
I'm looking forward to S5 now, anyway. Am quite thoroughly done with anything RTD this after this. ;-)
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