"God... flippin' idiot."

[finchmeister]

Hey. I haven't really updated in here in awhile. I was updating blurty for a little while which I don't think anyone knew or cares about other than a few. I guess it was more comfortable updating in there since no one but a few really read it. Anyways, I haven't really been up to much. School is alright. I only have 5 classes but I don't really

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[avianchaos]

The guy may be an asshole, but you don't just sign up and become a Marine. -shrugs- It's just not that simple. Doing something like that is much more physically and mentally demanding than probably anything you or I will ever experience. I just don't think that being a soldier is something to be mocked.

Also, I have to agree with the anonymous comment. So the guy came and plugged for Bush - big deal. You want to get away from that? Stop watching television, reading magazines, listening to the radio, and going outside at all and you might, you just might escape the large part of propaganda from both sides that is virtually everywhere. People make CDs about how much they hate Bush, people do concert tours based on the fact that they want Bush out of office, and people show up in schools and talk about how they're voting for Bush. That's the way it is, and you can't condemn one side without condemning both.

[masterjedi]

actually.. you do just sign up and become a marine.. and they then send you off to boot camp, and then you go on to higher training after that. but that's basically all you do. I have insider info on that sort of thing. ha.. unfortunetly... meh.

and to brian-. hi. I miss you too. sigh. well. yeah. kbyes. <33333.

[benweasel]

I would be equally annoyed if some guy came in and plugged for Kerry, or anyone really. The majority of the kids in the class have not learned enough to make a valid opinion on a lot of things going on in this election. Considering they have only been in this government class a week, it seems a bit unfair to have a big Bush fan come in and tell a bunch of high school students how much kerry sucks. It's already swaying their opinions before they know anything.

If a Kerry fan came in also and the two had a debate, THAT would be an interesting and educational thing. I would support that 100%. But just having a Bush supporter come in and preach is really, really uncool and probably illegal.

[benweasel]

Also, you really DO just sign up to be a marine. They've called my house 2 or 3 times in the past 2 months asking me to sign up and I'm not even 18 yet.

[avianchaos]

First, in response to both you and Deanna - yes, I've gotten calls as well. My point wasn't that you have to be a genius or you have to know somebody to get into the Marines. My point is that it's difficult. You don't sign a form and then come back two years later saying that you're a Marine. It's difficult. And, like I said, "physically and mentally demanding." The problem I have is that you're dismissing this guy like it's easy to be a Marine. Maybe it's easy to start - as in, sign up and go - but it's not a piece of cake. It's hard, and more strenuous than anything a musician would probably ever go through

[benweasel]

School is a place to learn.

TV isn't.

I think that's a pretty fair opinion on it, honestly.

And also, I do have respect for soilders. I agree that it is really hard and difficult and everything you said. It's something I'm sure I never want to do and I have respect for the people who have gone through it and SURVIVED it. I just don't agree with coming to classes and talking to students. It's just not the place for it. If a guy came into one of your classes and told you guys to vote for Kerry, then he said "God is a fag, I worship satan", you would not be annoyed? be honest.

I know you will argue with me about it until... forever, so it's really not that important. Just understand what I'm saying.

[avianchaos]

I will agree with you about school and television. Not only is school a place to learn, but it's also mandatory, at least for a while. Television is optional

[benweasel]

I don't disagree. I don't know anything about those teachers you're talking about, but that is unfair. I don't disagree.

That's why Mr. Swartz(my history teacher last year) was such a wonderful teacher. He told BOTH sides to every story and always make it interesting.

Mr. Yerke had communist beliefs. He never told the class that though. He kept his opinions to himself which was smart.

I'm kind of rambling. Anyways, if you agree on what we are both saying here, then why do you think what the marine did was ok?

[avianchaos]

I think what the marine did is acceptable because whether we think it's unfair or not, we allow similar incidents to happen every day at our school. Every day, some teacher's opinion on Bush or Kerry is spread to a room full of students. Without fail. We can't prevent this, but nor do we really try to. So, following that train of thought, why should we prevent a former KHS student from coming into a class and speaking his mind? Like teachers do every day?

[benweasel]

I think you're aruging just for the sake of arguing... I give up.

[avianchaos]

I think I answered your question and now you're avoiding mine.

Of course, I'm sure it's easier to pin off your lack of an answer on what you think are my character flaws. -shrugs-

[joshuagooch48]

fine, i'll pick up where he left off. we can't really do anything about teacher opinions that we don't like, because they are there getting paid and we are forced to sit and listen to what they are saying. but somebody going out of their way to come into a class room full of naive students and promote a candidate is totally different. don't compare this marine to teachers or to tv. they are all different. if i don't feel like watching the ad on tv, i change the channel, like everyone has said before. i can't do anything about the teachers. well, i could complain if i felt the need to, but nothing would really happen. but something should be done about a non-school related person coming into classes and lecturing students. because we are already bombarded with tv, radio, and the teachers, why should we have to sit through yet another? it is bullshit.

and unfortunetly, the biased teacher stuff just gets worse in college. luckily, you're alowed to switch teachers as many times as you want until you find one that suits your educational

[avianchaos]

Right, marines and teachers and TV are all different. In fact, we're all different - everything is different from everything else. Let's not compare anything. It definitely makes life (or in this case, your argument) much easier.

So you're saying it's okay if teachers do it, but not anyone else? (Also, unfortunately this person was school related - they attended KHS two years ago. That means this isn't random targeting by the government or Bush or anyone else - it's a former student wanting to come back of his own volition.) It's okay if teachers cram unwanted opinions down our throats, but when our peers get a chance at it, all of a sudden we're up in arms? Yes, peers. We went to highschool with this guy (assuming you go to KHS - I'm sorry, I don't know you very well either). Kids come back all the time and see teachers. It's happened in two of my classes this year already. As soon as one offends you, though, it's not okay anymore

[redbricksky]

Students have the option to turn off radio and television commercials...Students have to option to turn off people offering their opinions in their minds. I bet the uninformed people wouldn't care what the guy had to say anyways. If a student doesn't know anything about politics, he wouldn't pay attention to his pro-Bush speech anyways.