NO NO NO NO NO

[filkertom]

At least 27 dead, including at least 18 children, in Connecticut elementary school shootingPeace and condolences and whatever cold comfort may be taken by the families of the dead and wounded

Comments

[kosaginolegion]

It strikes me, on the question of gun control and the general unwillingness to discuss it, that this sort of thing will keep happening until the very thing the anti-control people want to prevent becomes the only accepted answer; No guns available to citizens at all.

It's high time for an adult discussion. A reasonable discussion. Before it becomes far too late for anything of the sort.

[dragonmakr]

It doesn't seem like we're capable of an adult discussion about the weather, let alone the important things like gun control.

gun control

[ext_308670]

We can't discuss gun control. The only thing we can discuss is if we should amend the Constitution to repeal the Second Amendment or not. As long as the 2nd is in effect, you can't have infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Until the 2nd is repealed, you won't have the support of the public to control gun ownership. (honestly if we get 2/3rds of the states to pass a repeal, you have the support.)

Until a politician stands up and says "I support repealing the 2nd amendment" things will not change. Obama is continuing to not push any effort to end the 2nd Amendment, or do more than 'have a discussion'. What is to discuss? We can't ban ownership, restrict ownership, limit ownership as long as the 2nd is part of the Constitution. So all that can be discussed is do we keep it or repeal it.

[houseboatonstyx]

Nonsense.

But just to make one obvious point: 2/3 of the states does not equal 2/3 of the people.

[blaisepascal]

Nor does 2/3 of the states equal 2/3 of both houses of congress or 3/4 of the states.

Re: gun control

[alverant]

So the whole "well regulated militia" means nothing?

We have more restrictions on who can drive a car than who can own and use a maching made for killing people. We have these restructions on vehicles even though we have the freedom to travel from state to state. But we can't do the same thing for guns. You don't think that's messed up?

Re: gun control

[redaxe]

As long as the 2nd is in effect, you can't have infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms

Ridiculous. Go yell "fire" in a crowded theater, and see if explicit Constitutional rights can't be regulated, in situations where public safety is concerned.

Whether Washington has the cojones to do something to prevent repeats of Newtown, Columbine, Aurora, etc. is a whole other question.