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Aug 18, 2010 08:11

I find the increasing rhetoric about Muslims to be absolutely horrific. I'm shocked and astounded and growing rather afraid. What's most frightening is seeing it come from members of religious groups that are also persecuted by Christians ( Read more... )

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dracphelan August 18 2010, 13:49:56 UTC
While I disagree with objections to the Mosque, I can understand where many people are coming from. I have lived many places in the world and the most repressive was Saudi Arabia, which is run under Islamic law. One week a year they would throw acid at women they did not approve of with the approval of the government.
As I tried to make clear in Twitter, the USA has only been violently attacked in the name of a one religion that I know of. This translates into some people seeing the threat as being all Muslims. Now, IMO, blaming all Muslims for this is the same as blaming all Christians for the Westboro Baptist Church nut jobs.

As an aside, did you know that there is a Greek Orthodox church that is having problems getting rebuilt. It was there on the World Trade Center grounds. But, they are having problems with the BY Port Authority getting everything set up so they can rebuild.

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ferretlightning August 18 2010, 14:13:59 UTC
The thing is, I get how worldwide, Muslims are problematic, so say the least. It's horrific. However, Christians in that part of the world don't treat their women or anyone else much better. It's more of a cultural thing and not just a religious one ( ... )

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ferretlightning August 18 2010, 14:41:12 UTC
Actually...I should correct myself. Muslims worldwide are not all horrific. European, Australian, American...they are all very different from their Middle Eastern counterparts. All the religious groups in that part of the world are a wacky. It's a cultural thing that is so deeply inbred, it doesn't matter what religion someone is a member of there, they are far round the bend wacko by our standards. Let's face it: that part of the world has people that are still angry about The Crusades.

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weaselpants August 18 2010, 16:02:17 UTC
Two things Tim.

1 Repeat the statement about the Orthodox Church again.

On the grounds, is the important part. Nothing has been built there yet. And contrary to certain media outlets, the Ground Zero Mosque is actually a few blocks away.

2 Jewsish Defense League, Operation Rescue, Ku Klux Klan, Army of God, Hutaree, Scott Roeder, Eric Rudpolph and arguably Concerned Christians. Although to be fair the last group were American christian terrorists who targeted Israel.

People are coming from ignorance. It's not that they hate Muslims. It's that they hate the imaginary monsters that they think Muslims are. As a member of a multiple minorities that haven't always been treated nicely, and a veteran who has spent nearly a year and a half dealing with the fallout of ethnic strife, I find this whole situation to be horrifying.

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waterlilly August 19 2010, 23:52:22 UTC
Fundamentalism of all stripes reveres and preaches ignorance. The problem is not Christianity, Islam, or religion itself. The problem is the mental illness of fundamentalism that seems to look the same wherever we find it.

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prodigal August 19 2010, 04:07:34 UTC
As I tried to make clear in Twitter, the USA has only been violently attacked in the name of a one religion that I know of.
Timothy McVeigh's bombing of Oklahoma City and Eric rudolph's bombing of the Atlanta Olympics were both done in the name of the splinter sect of Christianity each of them belonged to.

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