TOSed. Yeah.

May 29, 2007 18:15

Okay. So I've heard back from LJ Abuse in regards to pornish_pixies. Leaving this uncut. Apologies to the flist.

Please don't be knocking LJ Abuse in any way for deleting pornish_pixies...they were very kind and very helpful in their explanation and I can see where they're coming from from a legal POV. Plus, they gave me a way to hopefully save the back comm entries. I'll be ( Read more... )

comms: pornish, 6a: strikethrough, fandom: hp

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scarah2 May 29 2007, 22:20:24 UTC
Dude, what about all the support comms for survivors?

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werewolf_lib May 29 2007, 22:25:49 UTC
Maybe I'm just particularly bitter right now, but I wouldn't be surprised if the group rumoured to be behind this wouldn't target them as well for some wild, irrational reason.

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pepperjackcandy May 29 2007, 23:26:13 UTC
I'm thinking that someone should give them a heads-up. Just in case.

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jeran May 30 2007, 16:57:49 UTC
I'm wondering if some of those communites might want to not remove the tag. Let LJ face the prospect of legal action from a bunch of incest survivors it's just accused of trying to solicit exactly what they survived. I think that's what it's going to take to convince companies like SixApart that there are also costs associated with acting like this.

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ladysorka May 29 2007, 22:23:17 UTC
That seems to be the exact same response that ataniell93 just got, so now I'm wondering how many journals and communities were actually hit by these people.

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zhonnika May 29 2007, 22:23:21 UTC
I have the members list: http://pics.livejournal.com/legomymalfoy/pic/000kpy5r

I'm sorry, I am. I, being a member of the comm and the team, was understandably caught in the middle.

Have been advised to say more, but will email you.

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florahart May 29 2007, 22:34:22 UTC
Possibly it would be useful, if, as it appears, there are multiple suspensions right now, to change the FAQ on suspensions.

Right now it clearly says:

Account suspensions are generally used by the Abuse Team as a last resort. In most cases, a user will be provided with an opportunity to delete any content that is in violation of the Terms of Service before his or her account is suspended. Immediate suspensions are done for certain reasons, including but not limited to:

* Denial of Service attacks,
* account break-ins,
* violation of previous Abuse Team directive,
* and journals where all material is a violation of the Terms of Service.Which is clearly not what is happening. It seems like it would at least save confusion. Also, since you would know: to whom should one address a (or, say, several thousand) complaints as to the general reasonableness of this policy/approach? I think it does not in any way follow that listing something as an interest constitutes promotion thereof, and given that LJ has in the TOS stuff about not ( ... )

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zhonnika May 29 2007, 22:37:33 UTC
Will pass it on to those in charge!

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catrinella May 29 2007, 22:48:59 UTC
I have been thinking of you, hon. *hugs*

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violet_quill May 29 2007, 22:23:25 UTC
First of all, *hugs*, for you having to deal with this.

And also, I would imagine that most of the Pornish authors that are still around would be happy to repost the fics that they have, and to reformat the ones that you can get from the backups. I admit, I'm one of the ones who doesn't have backups of a lot of my fics posted to pornish, but if you come across my fics in the backups, I can definitely reformat them and repost them myself.

And let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

I'm hoping that erotic_elves is safe, since it's never had any community interests listed. :-\

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harrysmom May 30 2007, 12:23:27 UTC
I've been wondering about erotic elves myself. Maybe a back-up of stories just in case the unthinkable happens?

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florahart May 29 2007, 22:27:50 UTC
Here's the thing.

1. The FAQ on suspension SAYS this is not done this way.

Account suspensions are generally used by the Abuse Team as a last resort. In most cases, a user will be provided with an opportunity to delete any content that is in violation of the Terms of Service before his or her account is suspended. Immediate suspensions are done for certain reasons, including but not limited to:

* Denial of Service attacks,
* account break-ins,
* violation of previous Abuse Team directive,
* and journals where all material is a violation of the Terms of Service.

2. It's not reasonable to suggest that having something listed as an interest is promotional. It just isn't.

*sigh*

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