We Love the Women That Fandom Hates- Day 1

Sep 09, 2011 00:26

It is past midnight and thus officially September 9th which means it is the first day of the We Love the Women That Fandom Hates project. For those of you who have only watched Game of Thrones and not read A Song of Ice and Fire, the Catelyn meta today does not refer to events that happen after the first book. However, it does refer to events that ( Read more... )

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thelake September 9 2011, 07:42:41 UTC
the fact that Catelyn projects her feelings of resentment onto Jon instead of Ned is an understandably human response to the situation she finds herself in. Catelyn is an intensely real character. She has very real human emotions and responses to things.

100% agreed. I've never hated Cat and I never will. She is a real mother and she acts the way a woman in her status should act.

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fauxkaren September 9 2011, 08:08:41 UTC
Yep. I think some people judge Catelyn because she's not a 21st century heroine, but she's not trying to me. She's definitely a character who has been shaped by the pseudo-medieval European society that is Westeros. But she's still a very realistic character and her actions and emotions ring very true to me.

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thelake September 9 2011, 08:10:29 UTC
I hate it when people try to take characters out of their environment and treat them like they're someone from our time. You're reading *fiction* for god's sake, try to think outside the box and adjust your expectations.

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sa_da_ko September 9 2011, 08:26:37 UTC
Hello :)
You're writing about three characters I know and two of them really, really like :) And I'm willing to be convinced to Catelyn ;)

I kept my fingers crossed for Rose all the time and her evolution was very interesting, I think it's why I even started liking her.

I can only agree with what you wrote about Cordelia, her directness and saying always what she thinks are two of main reasons why do I love her :).

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fauxkaren September 9 2011, 08:48:53 UTC
I hope my metas do make you like Catelyn or at least appreciate her more as a character! She's a character that I immediately connected with and loved, only to find out that a lot of people hated her. I hope that I can share and explain my love for her so maybe more people can see her the way that I do.

Rose is one of my all time favorite characters. Her character growth is just amazing to watch, and she just has so much warmth and joy in her.

Cordelia's directness makes her really funny. In my opinion, Cordelia's lines are some of my favorite parts of Buffy's first season.

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shinyopals September 9 2011, 12:17:47 UTC
yay Rose. I have nothing to say being agreeing with you, so I shall just do that and look forward to the rest of your posts.

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fauxkaren September 9 2011, 14:12:37 UTC
Rose is the best. It is fact. I'm having a lot of fun planning all my metas around her. SHE IS SUCH A BRILLIANT CHARACTER. WHY DOESN'T EVERY ONE LOVE HER LIKE I DO?

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lady_theta September 9 2011, 12:44:52 UTC
While I tend not to agree with Catelyn's actions in the book, I never got why she got so much hate. If ASOIAF was set in modern times, then maybe I could understand but it's not. ASOIAF is set in a MEDIEVAL setting. Thus contextually, her actions make sense. Her status at Winterfell, and Westeros as whole, is dependent on the fact that she is the mother of legitimate heirs. Jon is a lingering shadow over that status.

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fauxkaren September 9 2011, 14:14:40 UTC
There are some characters in the series who definitely feel like they've just been dropped in there from the 21st century which is all well and good (and I even love a lot of them), but Catelyn isn't one of them. She is definitely a part of the pseudo-medieval culture of Westeros, and like you said, as such her status is highly dependent on her ability to produce heirs. It makes sense that she's so protective of her kids and their futures.

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pellamerethiel September 9 2011, 13:43:49 UTC
I loved your meta about Catelyn - I still have some issues with this character,but i cannot wait to read more of your metas and confront them with my own opinions :-)
the meta about Cordelia was also fabulous!

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fauxkaren September 9 2011, 14:19:17 UTC
Catelyn isn't perfect and her character arc wasn't handled perfectly. But I do think that there is a lot of fabulous stuff about her character that I hope I'll be able to bring to the front over the next few days.

Cordelia is one of my favorite characters from the Buffyverse that I didn't know was one of my favorite characters until I did a rewatch recently. I'd always liked her, but it wasn't until I rewatched some early episodes of Buffy that I really appreciated her and the perspective that she brings to the group. I'm so excited to go through all my favorite Cordy scenes so that I can talk about how fabulous she is.

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