And I said no, no, no!

Oct 06, 2011 05:55

Hullo fellow fats! Long time lurker, first time poster. One day I'll get up the nerves to do an OotD post, but for now I wanted to post about something that's very near and dear to me ( Read more... )

what the hell?, disgust, dealing with rude people, rants

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bunnybraineater October 10 2011, 00:12:52 UTC
that...is really weird. i don't think the company had any malicious intent behind what the bio says, but it's still kind of ignorant and worded horribly. i think what they were trying to say was women that have large, man-shaped bodies, but couldn't think of a "pleasant" way to say it. i don't understand why they didn't just say "women who like wearing men's t-shirts." it would have been a lot less offensive and confusing, and not risked offending larger women and those who identify as large women by saying that they MUST be constantly mistaken for "big boys."

i run across similar shit online all the time, where plus sizes for men are way extended, especially t-shirt sites, but women almost never get anything above an xl or xxl. it's bullshit.

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clover_elf_kin October 10 2011, 00:16:19 UTC
As we like to say in several other communities I'm in, "Intent is not magical." I'm sure the company didn't mean to insult anyone, but they still did, and so gentle correction is perfectly acceptable.

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bunnybraineater October 10 2011, 03:11:48 UTC
right, i'm not saying that what was said isn't dumb and doesn't need correction...i guess i was just trying to rationalize why anyone would think it was even okay to write that, heh.

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thirtiesgirl October 10 2011, 00:41:28 UTC
Some fat women have "large, man-shaped bodies," but not all do. With my broad shoulders, flat ass, slimmer hips, big tum and torso, I'm one of those women who could be construed as having a more "masculine" body shape. My boobs help give my body shape some appearance of femininity, depending on what I'm wearing. But sometimes they just contribute to the appearance of a "large torso."

If it was the company's intent to single out women with more "masculine" body shapes, that's pretty narrow minded of them. In addition, while some fat women might be fine with someone describing their body shape as "large, man-shaped," or assume their body shape is "more masculine," some of us aren't ok with it. I already have enough of an issue being seen as having a 'feminine' body shape by straight guys, so I don't appreciate being seen as having a potentially "man-shaped" body by a t-shirt retail company and told I need to buy a man's t-shirt to fit over my "big boy" body.

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bunnybraineater October 10 2011, 03:17:51 UTC
right, i didn't mean to sound like such a douche in my comment. i wasn't saying i agree with the comment or think it's okay, i was trying to express how i was flabbergasted that they would think most any woman, fat or not, would be okay with being confused for being male. I have a pretty masculine-shaped body as well, with wide torso and shoulders and almost no waist and small boobs, but i still hate wearing boys' shirts because they squish my chest and are too baggy around the waist, and the necklines are too high to the point of being confining.

anyway, sorry if i cam across as an apologist in my earlier comment; i was just musing about why anyone would think that sentence was a good idea, when really i guess i should have been focusing on how it's probably just fueled by the same fat woman-hating shit that it's also propagating.

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thirtiesgirl October 10 2011, 04:22:13 UTC
No worries. I got that you were making a point about the assumptions of the marketing team that fat women "have bigger/masculine bodies." I didn't think it was your assumption.

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