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autochrome May 15 2012, 23:01:34 UTC
I was sort of ambivalent going in, as I saw it completely on a whim, but I thought it was great, as well. I'm excited to see more of Ruffalo's Bruce Banner, I thought he was perfect. As an aside, I'm going to venture that kids who are seeing this will not know what "quim" means. I was actually pleased they let that in, though; it's really vicious, suitably so.

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fatpie42 May 16 2012, 00:15:57 UTC
Y'know what? I think I'm only keen on seeing Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner as a guest in the movies of other superheroes. I'm not convinced that he's going to be any more able to carry a movie on his own because, in the end, it's not the actor that's the problem with Hulk movies. It's the problem of building an interesting plot around that one character. But throw Hulk into the mix with another superhero and I think things could get more interesting ( ... )

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autochrome May 16 2012, 00:37:20 UTC
I can see that as a problem, and I'd be fine if the Hulk didn't get another feature to himself, I just want more of him in the next thing, whatever that is.

I didn't mean it quite as a defence, as such, because I don't think it's a big deal for kids of the appropriate Avengers age to have some obscenities - not necessarily effing and blinding, because that would be weird for this sort of movie, being basically...wholesome?, but a few swears now and then never hurt. I meant more for little kids. Honestly, though, 'quim' is hardly going to make the ears of any older kids bleed, and is probably tamer than the way they chat (I say this not as a 'kids these days!' rant, but kids/teens love swearing, so it goes). And it was the baddie who swore, so there's a lesson for them young'uns (I imagine that's at least distantly what the filmmakers, or at least the censors, thought).

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fatpie42 May 16 2012, 05:51:37 UTC
I meant more for little kids.

So did I. Little kids don't understand the f word either, but that's not an excuse to put it into children's movies. This word that Loki uses is essentially the archaic equivalent of the c word. I presume you wouldn't give the same pass to the word c**t?

I don't really have that big a problem with them using this word in the movie, but it does surprise me that the filmmakers felt justified in using it.

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allisontooey May 16 2012, 18:47:45 UTC
Not trying to be dismissive here, I'm genuinely curious; why does everyone love Agent Coulson? He always just came across as a hapless S.H.I.E.L.D. agent to me in the other movies (haven't seen Avengers, so maybe he's different in this one). I'd appreciate your take on it.

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fatpie42 May 16 2012, 20:31:28 UTC
I'm not familiar with the comics, so for me the Nick Fury cameo after the credits of Iron Man meant nothing to me. Sam L Jackson was already fallen from grace since his heady days of hype in the wake of Pulp Fiction, so his presence at the end of a movie wasn't enough to get me excited. For me, Agent Coulson is the man who introduces us to SHIELD. His main contribution to Iron Man is essentially a single gag. He first names his organisation's title in full and then towards the end he reveals that the abbreviation of the organisation's title is SHIELD (and since I'd played the "Marvel Alliance" beat-em-up game I'd heard that name before ( ... )

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allisontooey May 16 2012, 23:16:25 UTC
Ah, ok, that makes a lot of sense. I'm no expert on Nick Fury/S.H.I.E.L.D. either, but I knew enough about him to know he was important, but instead we kept getting this (to me) random guy who seemed to only exist in the first movie for the reason you said. I also had some trouble with the fact that he was assigned to watch Stark in Iron Man 2 and managed to not notice Stark sneaking out to the office and that S.H.I.E.L.D. in Thor seemed way too much like the stereotypical "Evil organization". So it's probably my own bias more than anything.

Thanks for answering. I guess I'm not one for Coulson's brand of dry humor, but I can see how others would like him.

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liquidpig May 21 2012, 07:17:55 UTC
Agreed.. I mean, of course Joss Whedon had to kill someone, so he did away with a minor character. I mean, I know I didn't have any attachment to him.

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tommy50702 January 12 2015, 02:46:39 UTC
The Hulk was by far the BEST thing in the movie. He stole every scene he was in. Ruffalo’s Banner is so spot on of David Bixby’s character which I love.

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