Contexts, what are those.

Aug 10, 2012 10:48

Here is a short list of non-homophobic reasons that people might object to two males of their acquaintance hooking up ( Read more... )

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flo_nelja August 10 2012, 16:12:20 UTC
--Inability to procreate together
To be honest, this one is frequently used by homophobic people trying to explain they are not homophobic, it's not about chirdren - ...but with a sterile girl it would not be the same, they could adopt, and so on...

Word for the rest.

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seiberwing August 10 2012, 16:13:57 UTC
True. I was mostly thinking of societies where making babies is the MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER and love is a secondary matter.

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khilari August 10 2012, 16:34:22 UTC
In some pre-modern societies sterility would be considered a reason for divorce, though, especially in ones with a high emphasis on bloodlines. I'd agree modern society is different.

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boncoup August 10 2012, 16:40:56 UTC
IAWTC, in the sense that if used as an excuse it would most likely be homophobic, however, I do think it could be used in a non-homophobic way as well, for I've known people who shun their children's love interests based on fertility.

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shimmerfox August 10 2012, 17:30:35 UTC
There's a lot of fantasy societies inability to procreate is a big deal (and historically in our world, even in times that where much more accepting then ours), that being said, I agree that in a modern context lack of procreation is almost always homophobic and even when it isn't it tends to be coupled with homophobia.

So I think context probably matters quite a bit.

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full_metal_ox August 10 2012, 21:36:30 UTC
--Inability to procreate together
To be honest, this one is frequently used by homophobic people trying to explain they are not homophobic, it's not about chirdren - ...but with a sterile girl it would not be the same, they could adopt, and so on...

Ever notice how seldom the procreation argument seems to come into play when Mr. December marries Ms. May?

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khilari August 10 2012, 22:25:03 UTC
But wasn't the traditional reason for older men marrying much younger women because they could still procreate that way?

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full_metal_ox August 11 2012, 20:23:43 UTC
My comment did come across as fairly witless and ill-considered; I suppose my point was that, although money, power, and clout tend to accumulate with age, a nubile young woman would have an even better chance of conceiving by a man in her own age bracket.

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funwithrage August 12 2012, 12:38:54 UTC
Probably a bit of self-deception there, too, in a lot of cases: you marry a younger woman and assume that any heirs you have are yours, as long as they don't look *too* much like the hot young gardener.

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